1 00:00:17,390 --> 00:00:14,440 [Music] 2 00:00:21,620 --> 00:00:17,400 this hope radiates for the masses 3 00:00:23,270 --> 00:00:21,630 headliner between July 8 1947 the Army 4 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:23,280 Air Forces has announced are applying 5 00:00:27,890 --> 00:00:25,650 there - found under now in the 6 00:00:29,630 --> 00:00:27,900 possession of the honor the game is 7 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:29,640 rigged change the game 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:33,120 GameChanger I occasionally think how 9 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:36,330 quickly our differences worldwide would 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:40,110 vanish if we were facing an alien threat 11 00:00:44,490 --> 00:00:42,770 from outside this way 12 00:00:46,910 --> 00:00:44,500 [Music] 13 00:00:49,700 --> 00:00:46,920 [Applause] 14 00:00:52,669 --> 00:00:49,710 this is fade to black with your host 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:52,679 Jimmy Church on the game changer radio 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:00:55,890 network and a GRA the global radio 17 00:01:04,860 --> 00:01:02,470 we need your help to do 18 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:04,870 1985 19 00:01:10,649 --> 00:01:08,560 [Music] 20 00:01:12,899 --> 00:01:10,659 you are listening to painted black with 21 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:12,909 jimmy touch on the game change in that 22 00:01:17,789 --> 00:01:13,680 blood 23 00:01:25,230 --> 00:01:17,799 [Music] 24 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:25,240 good evening fade to black 25 00:01:40,210 --> 00:01:37,729 this spoke radio for the masses yeah and 26 00:01:45,399 --> 00:01:40,220 how you doing how you doing today it's 27 00:01:48,430 --> 00:01:45,409 Wednesday February 12 2025 a z' into the 28 00:01:53,179 --> 00:01:48,440 new year just 327 days left 29 00:02:00,080 --> 00:01:58,190 as always we are live we are live from a 30 00:02:02,230 --> 00:02:00,090 bunker somewhere in the middle of 31 00:02:05,599 --> 00:02:02,240 beautiful downtown Burbank California 32 00:02:07,459 --> 00:02:05,609 and I would like to welcome everybody 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:07,469 listening all around the world all 34 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:11,610 across the United States hither and 35 00:02:19,610 --> 00:02:14,910 thither to and fro back and forth up and 36 00:02:22,089 --> 00:02:19,620 down east and west north and south far 37 00:02:25,190 --> 00:02:22,099 and near 38 00:02:27,740 --> 00:02:25,200 this is fade to black for kjc are the 39 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:27,750 game changer network and Keiji are a the 40 00:02:39,130 --> 00:02:34,250 gladdens i'm your host Amy Church yeah 41 00:02:43,170 --> 00:02:39,140 what is crackin how you doing all right 42 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:43,180 [Music] 43 00:02:50,429 --> 00:02:46,209 very very special night on the show 44 00:02:57,199 --> 00:02:50,439 tonight because we have James Redfield 45 00:03:05,099 --> 00:03:03,449 that's right and you know let me let me 46 00:03:06,750 --> 00:03:05,109 get through this really quick tomorrow 47 00:03:09,539 --> 00:03:06,760 night is fader night with open lines all 48 00:03:11,220 --> 00:03:09,549 night long looking forward to that lots 49 00:03:13,530 --> 00:03:11,230 to discuss tomorrow night we'll get to 50 00:03:15,270 --> 00:03:13,540 all of that and take your calls all 51 00:03:19,229 --> 00:03:15,280 night long you can follow me on Twitter 52 00:03:22,530 --> 00:03:19,239 I teach radio the sandbox is hashtag f2b 53 00:03:24,539 --> 00:03:22,540 on twitter any questions or comments for 54 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:24,549 myself for James tonight 55 00:03:31,709 --> 00:03:28,209 use hashtag f2b q you can also email 56 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:31,719 throughout the show Jimmy at Jimmy 57 00:03:41,809 --> 00:03:34,930 Church radio.com and it goes without 58 00:03:47,789 --> 00:03:41,819 saying that in the middle of the 1990s 59 00:03:51,059 --> 00:03:47,799 95 96 you know it was it was a fun time 60 00:03:57,469 --> 00:03:51,069 it was a good time it was a strange time 61 00:04:01,319 --> 00:03:57,479 and then Celestine Prophecy took over 62 00:04:03,780 --> 00:04:01,329 and I was just like the rest of all of 63 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:03,790 you what seems like the rest of the 64 00:04:10,099 --> 00:04:06,370 planet we all got the book we read it 65 00:04:15,509 --> 00:04:10,109 and we talked about it I got the book i 66 00:04:18,180 --> 00:04:15,519 sat with people in my office in Culver 67 00:04:21,779 --> 00:04:18,190 City talked about the book all day long 68 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:21,789 you know and and some people were going 69 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:23,530 through the book in stages for the first 70 00:04:28,529 --> 00:04:25,409 time discussing it 71 00:04:32,510 --> 00:04:28,539 some had finished it and were reading it 72 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:32,520 a second or third time I was flying 73 00:04:38,990 --> 00:04:35,050 around the country around the world on 74 00:04:43,980 --> 00:04:39,000 business everywhere I went 75 00:04:49,140 --> 00:04:43,990 you saw the book he saw it it was just 76 00:04:53,940 --> 00:04:49,150 everywhere and the impact cannot be 77 00:04:55,250 --> 00:04:53,950 measured but to go 25 years into the 78 00:04:58,730 --> 00:04:55,260 future 79 00:05:01,190 --> 00:04:58,740 to tonight when I am able to sit down 80 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:01,200 with the James right-field and have a 81 00:05:05,390 --> 00:05:03,510 conversation with all of you that is 82 00:05:09,830 --> 00:05:05,400 truly special and I am looking forward 83 00:05:11,780 --> 00:05:09,840 to this it's gonna be a just it's it's 84 00:05:12,860 --> 00:05:11,790 gonna be a great conversation been 85 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:12,870 looking forward to it 86 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:16,080 so somebody pinch me I'm quite happy you 87 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:17,970 know now and there's another part to 88 00:05:26,180 --> 00:05:24,000 this too as well fortunately I have met 89 00:05:29,060 --> 00:05:26,190 James and spoken to him a few times over 90 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:29,070 the years and we did have a couple of 91 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:31,680 really good conversations over this past 92 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:38,880 weekend so I'm not white as a people to 93 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:42,450 maintain but it's gonna be a great 94 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:43,770 governor they're really really looking 95 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:45,600 forward to it and we've been planning 96 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:48,090 this for a few years 97 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:51,810 oddly enough so oh and I won't mention 98 00:05:57,410 --> 00:05:54,090 this with a James tonight so I'll share 99 00:05:59,600 --> 00:05:57,420 this with you now yeah so we're standing 100 00:06:03,380 --> 00:05:59,610 there talking we're with a couple of 101 00:06:07,060 --> 00:06:03,390 friends and Oh dannion brinkley was 102 00:06:09,530 --> 00:06:07,070 standing there and James goes okay man 103 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:09,540 let's exchange numbers I said great 104 00:06:16,340 --> 00:06:13,260 that's what cell phones are for and I 105 00:06:23,620 --> 00:06:16,350 give him my number and he goes oh I've 106 00:06:30,860 --> 00:06:27,380 and I got that what's the excuse and it 107 00:06:32,270 --> 00:06:30,870 was just so funny that we were both 108 00:06:35,630 --> 00:06:32,280 standing there and Danny and just 109 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:35,640 cracked up and because penny you too you 110 00:06:39,020 --> 00:06:35,970 too 111 00:06:42,260 --> 00:06:39,030 okay so anyway James grew up in a rural 112 00:06:44,570 --> 00:06:42,270 area of Birmingham Alabama and is the 113 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:44,580 author of The Celestine Prophecy a book 114 00:06:51,290 --> 00:06:46,610 that remained on the New York Times 115 00:06:54,260 --> 00:06:51,300 bestseller list for 165 weeks that is 116 00:06:55,940 --> 00:06:54,270 three years to you and I sold over 5 117 00:06:59,570 --> 00:06:55,950 million copies and has been translated 118 00:07:02,150 --> 00:06:59,580 into 34 languages while majoring in 119 00:07:04,430 --> 00:07:02,160 sociology at Auburn University studied 120 00:07:06,980 --> 00:07:04,440 Eastern philosophies including Taoism 121 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:06,990 and Zen he later received a master's 122 00:07:11,870 --> 00:07:08,910 degree in counseling and spent more than 123 00:07:15,380 --> 00:07:11,880 fifteen years as a therapist to abused 124 00:07:18,110 --> 00:07:15,390 adolescents in 1989 he quit he quit his 125 00:07:19,790 --> 00:07:18,120 job to write full-time about interactive 126 00:07:22,970 --> 00:07:19,800 psychology Eastern and Western 127 00:07:26,180 --> 00:07:22,980 philosophy science futurism ecology and 128 00:07:28,340 --> 00:07:26,190 history in October 1997 he was awarded 129 00:07:32,210 --> 00:07:28,350 the medal of the presidency of the 130 00:07:34,850 --> 00:07:32,220 Italian Senate and in the spring of 2000 131 00:07:37,610 --> 00:07:34,860 he received the humanitarian of the Year 132 00:07:39,260 --> 00:07:37,620 honors from Auburn University two months 133 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:39,270 later he was honored by the 134 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:41,520 international new thought alliance with 135 00:07:47,540 --> 00:07:44,130 another humanitarian of the Year award 136 00:07:50,690 --> 00:07:47,550 in March 2004 he was honored by the 137 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:50,700 wisdom Media Group with the worldview 138 00:07:56,170 --> 00:07:53,970 award and right now James is engaged in 139 00:07:58,940 --> 00:07:56,180 a worldwide Celestine Prophecy 140 00:08:01,280 --> 00:07:58,950 inspiration tour and his websites right 141 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:01,290 there at Jimmy Church radio calm click 142 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:04,050 on it Celestine vision comm I would like 143 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:05,130 to welcome to fade to black 144 00:08:12,380 --> 00:08:07,890 James Redfield James good evening how 145 00:08:15,020 --> 00:08:12,390 are you good Jimmy it's a it's great to 146 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:15,030 have you here and before we kick things 147 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:18,690 off and I can honestly say finally James 148 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:20,130 you're with us right 149 00:08:25,340 --> 00:08:22,650 but before before we kick things off you 150 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:25,350 get the first-time guests disclaimer and 151 00:08:30,170 --> 00:08:27,810 it is this it's just you and I sitting 152 00:08:31,250 --> 00:08:30,180 on my couch having a conversation as 153 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:31,260 friends and where that conversation 154 00:08:35,930 --> 00:08:33,510 starts it starts where it ends it ends 155 00:08:40,580 --> 00:08:35,940 but we're going to end as friends there 156 00:08:44,180 --> 00:08:40,590 you go oh man question right off for you 157 00:08:45,890 --> 00:08:44,190 sure would you find that bio information 158 00:08:50,900 --> 00:08:45,900 I thought I scrubbed all that off the 159 00:08:55,370 --> 00:08:50,910 internet you know and you know what's 160 00:09:00,140 --> 00:08:55,380 interesting James before we get started 161 00:09:01,970 --> 00:09:00,150 here your your influence on all of this 162 00:09:03,980 --> 00:09:01,980 when I say all of us you know our 163 00:09:09,290 --> 00:09:03,990 community but it goes certainly goes 164 00:09:13,550 --> 00:09:09,300 beyond that but you go and you look into 165 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:13,560 what you should have achieved you did 166 00:09:22,009 --> 00:09:17,010 achieve all of that and and absolutely I 167 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:22,019 was going to mention it because the the 168 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:24,809 I want to say the emotional connection 169 00:09:30,530 --> 00:09:28,110 the you know you resonated with us those 170 00:09:32,569 --> 00:09:30,540 those things need to be recognized and 171 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:32,579 and they certainly have been so thank 172 00:09:37,429 --> 00:09:35,519 you for everything well you're quite 173 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:37,439 welcome it's been quite a journey and 174 00:09:42,109 --> 00:09:41,040 I've enjoyed most of it and you know 175 00:09:45,109 --> 00:09:42,119 it's still going 176 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:45,119 I mean it's we've we always talked about 177 00:09:49,369 --> 00:09:47,610 it's a new time in the world and how 178 00:09:52,970 --> 00:09:49,379 could you not be excited about that yeah 179 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:52,980 and and and going back to your comment I 180 00:09:59,439 --> 00:09:55,980 think that is a genuine statement what 181 00:10:02,150 --> 00:09:59,449 what James is referring to everybody I 182 00:10:05,419 --> 00:10:02,160 requested a short bio from James and he 183 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:05,429 sent me a nice short to the point bio 184 00:10:12,410 --> 00:10:09,619 and I expanded on that just a little bit 185 00:10:15,169 --> 00:10:12,420 and that's what he's referring to 186 00:10:16,609 --> 00:10:15,179 and absolutely James I was going to go 187 00:10:19,069 --> 00:10:16,619 there next time around 188 00:10:24,109 --> 00:10:19,079 it'll be your short bio that you send me 189 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:24,119 how I know I came from nowhere like you 190 00:10:31,489 --> 00:10:27,720 did and everybody else that I know who's 191 00:10:34,239 --> 00:10:31,499 really made a contribution to you know 192 00:10:38,929 --> 00:10:34,249 what we globally call consciousness and 193 00:10:40,999 --> 00:10:38,939 it you know it's fun and it's it's 194 00:10:43,429 --> 00:10:41,009 something that everybody can tune into 195 00:10:46,249 --> 00:10:43,439 and it's getting clearer and clearer 196 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:46,259 what we're doing and really how to tune 197 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:49,170 in and and and have this you know that's 198 00:10:54,829 --> 00:10:51,689 greater life that we poke around and 199 00:10:57,829 --> 00:10:54,839 talk about all the time we had I want to 200 00:11:02,150 --> 00:10:57,839 take a couple steps backward here for 201 00:11:05,659 --> 00:11:02,160 the audience you and I had a private 202 00:11:06,829 --> 00:11:05,669 conversation over the weekend and I want 203 00:11:09,049 --> 00:11:06,839 to go back and visit one of the 204 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:09,059 questions that I asked you privately if 205 00:11:12,739 --> 00:11:12,240 you don't mind let's go back there for a 206 00:11:16,369 --> 00:11:12,749 second 207 00:11:18,409 --> 00:11:16,379 because I asked you then I'm just gonna 208 00:11:25,419 --> 00:11:18,419 repeat in paraphrase just a little bit 209 00:11:30,109 --> 00:11:25,429 but I asked you if you were prepared for 210 00:11:33,230 --> 00:11:30,119 what eventually happened because it it 211 00:11:33,820 --> 00:11:33,240 when it happened it happened fast and it 212 00:11:41,079 --> 00:11:33,830 happened 213 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:41,089 for that and I don't think anybody 214 00:11:46,690 --> 00:11:45,290 really is yeah take me back to those you 215 00:11:50,170 --> 00:11:46,700 know I was a little older when it 216 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:50,180 happens I'm glad I was in like 18 or 22 217 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:54,050 or something you know like a lot of say 218 00:12:03,730 --> 00:11:57,970 athletic stars get thrown on the scene 219 00:12:07,329 --> 00:12:03,740 dude but but you know I I was prepared 220 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:07,339 to deliver the message I wasn't prepared 221 00:12:15,190 --> 00:12:11,240 for the media hype and you know back 222 00:12:16,090 --> 00:12:15,200 then it was a it was a slightly 223 00:12:19,090 --> 00:12:16,100 different world 224 00:12:21,810 --> 00:12:19,100 you know the lot of books beside the 225 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:21,820 Celestine Prophecy has mellowed out the 226 00:12:29,079 --> 00:12:27,110 conversation about spirituality in 227 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:29,089 consciousness right but back then you 228 00:12:34,509 --> 00:12:31,730 know that there are a lot of religious 229 00:12:39,340 --> 00:12:34,519 institutions that stood guard against 230 00:12:44,079 --> 00:12:39,350 that conversation and so it was it was 231 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:44,089 interesting that I was able to navigate 232 00:12:48,670 --> 00:12:46,730 that but but what my strategy was is I 233 00:12:51,699 --> 00:12:48,680 just let the book speak for itself 234 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:51,709 so I didn't seek the limelight you know 235 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:54,410 Tony Robbins tried to train me and what 236 00:13:00,790 --> 00:12:57,290 he does and get wild onstage and I never 237 00:13:04,060 --> 00:13:00,800 did that because I think that it you 238 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:04,070 know I wanted the book to just make its 239 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:06,320 journey and you know how the book was 240 00:13:11,319 --> 00:13:07,930 created that's a whole different story 241 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:11,329 but when it went most people know it 242 00:13:20,370 --> 00:13:15,529 went viral it it's you know it started 243 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:20,380 off with me moving doing publicity on a 244 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:25,850 self-published edition and it went so 245 00:13:30,910 --> 00:13:27,860 viral that you know I finally turned it 246 00:13:33,550 --> 00:13:30,920 over to a big publisher and who got it 247 00:13:35,829 --> 00:13:33,560 out there and all these countries but 248 00:13:38,620 --> 00:13:35,839 it's already being passed around to 249 00:13:41,110 --> 00:13:38,630 different countries just by word of 250 00:13:44,110 --> 00:13:41,120 mouth and you know there's a reason for 251 00:13:47,470 --> 00:13:44,120 that but as that is that pushed forward 252 00:13:48,939 --> 00:13:47,480 it just snowballed and not a being for 253 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:48,949 years of the best-selling book in the 254 00:13:58,329 --> 00:13:52,850 world and what what is interesting if I 255 00:14:01,660 --> 00:13:58,339 may jump in back then I was hearing the 256 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:01,670 chatter right I was hearing about this 257 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:04,610 book and and it seemed like everybody 258 00:14:11,230 --> 00:14:09,050 was was talking about it so I went went 259 00:14:12,699 --> 00:14:11,240 down to Borders Books right across the 260 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:12,709 street from the house I walked in and it 261 00:14:16,210 --> 00:14:13,690 said 262 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:16,220 Celestine Prophecy do you guys have it 263 00:14:21,220 --> 00:14:18,410 and the guy looked at me like I was nuts 264 00:14:23,259 --> 00:14:21,230 right and needs any points over he goes 265 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:23,269 it's right there and they had like a 266 00:14:29,829 --> 00:14:27,170 Christmas tree display right I don't 267 00:14:33,610 --> 00:14:29,839 know five hundred you know copies of it 268 00:14:36,129 --> 00:14:33,620 stacked up and and I enjoyed this guy's 269 00:14:38,590 --> 00:14:36,139 laughter at that point being so naive 270 00:14:41,710 --> 00:14:38,600 went over picked up the book and got it 271 00:14:44,439 --> 00:14:41,720 but it seemed that and this is what I 272 00:14:46,750 --> 00:14:44,449 think is most interesting I read the 273 00:14:50,350 --> 00:14:46,760 book in a week probably three or four 274 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:50,360 times it was an easy fun read right so 275 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:52,130 you just plow through it flip it over 276 00:14:59,319 --> 00:14:55,810 and start over and what I found that 277 00:15:01,809 --> 00:14:59,329 whether I was at work or traveling the 278 00:15:05,470 --> 00:15:01,819 country was speaking across the United 279 00:15:09,009 --> 00:15:05,480 States the conversations were there but 280 00:15:12,460 --> 00:15:09,019 it was different types of people right 281 00:15:17,110 --> 00:15:12,470 it wasn't necessarily a spiritual seeker 282 00:15:19,569 --> 00:15:17,120 or you know you had religious or Athey 283 00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:19,579 you know everybody was reading the book 284 00:15:24,819 --> 00:15:22,399 and getting something different from it 285 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:24,829 I almost felt like we weren't reading 286 00:15:31,449 --> 00:15:27,680 the same book and I which was great 287 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:31,459 because I would converse and get their 288 00:15:37,629 --> 00:15:34,850 take on it too as well did you find that 289 00:15:40,509 --> 00:15:37,639 that was ultimately the end result where 290 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:40,519 everybody got their own individual taste 291 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:45,250 of it I think that it you know it was it 292 00:15:55,090 --> 00:15:48,639 carried the reader through nine insights 293 00:16:00,740 --> 00:15:55,100 that once grass would lead to a totally 294 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:00,750 conscious planet so that 295 00:16:07,129 --> 00:16:04,410 that's that's that's a young people from 296 00:16:08,569 --> 00:16:07,139 with every motivation you know wants to 297 00:16:10,759 --> 00:16:08,579 see well what and you know how would 298 00:16:12,829 --> 00:16:10,769 that help me and I don't know if that I 299 00:16:15,490 --> 00:16:12,839 believe that or anything could create 300 00:16:18,139 --> 00:16:15,500 that but you know what is this and 301 00:16:19,220 --> 00:16:18,149 because it's a it's a story you know 302 00:16:22,730 --> 00:16:19,230 it's a novel 303 00:16:25,249 --> 00:16:22,740 it's a adventure story you know it just 304 00:16:28,699 --> 00:16:25,259 takes the reader step by step through 305 00:16:33,850 --> 00:16:28,709 what I what I would call now you know it 306 00:16:38,410 --> 00:16:33,860 steps into what we know is a you know a 307 00:16:43,309 --> 00:16:38,420 very practical active consciousness 308 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:43,319 about how our lives can go forward and 309 00:16:49,879 --> 00:16:47,550 we can live our most secret ambitions 310 00:16:52,429 --> 00:16:49,889 you know that all can happen and it and 311 00:16:59,629 --> 00:16:52,439 there's a there's a part of the universe 312 00:17:04,610 --> 00:16:59,639 that is still basically hit that you 313 00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:04,620 know it's ready to act and help and for 314 00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:07,079 these dreams now you can't be too 315 00:17:12,829 --> 00:17:10,319 controlling about it you have to yeah as 316 00:17:16,730 --> 00:17:12,839 you know you know you have to allow your 317 00:17:18,220 --> 00:17:16,740 intuition to guide you but it's when 318 00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:18,230 you'll want you to discover that flow 319 00:17:24,679 --> 00:17:22,079 then you begin to see it kind of 320 00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:24,689 everywhere and I think that's why people 321 00:17:28,820 --> 00:17:26,400 start talking about it with each other 322 00:17:32,330 --> 00:17:28,830 you know how do we get this flow in life 323 00:17:34,580 --> 00:17:32,340 is it really designed into the you know 324 00:17:38,860 --> 00:17:34,590 the quantum physics of this universe and 325 00:17:41,390 --> 00:17:38,870 I would say yeah it really is but we 326 00:17:43,610 --> 00:17:41,400 first of all have to be open to it and 327 00:17:46,669 --> 00:17:43,620 second of all we have to just change our 328 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:46,679 reaction patterns in the way we live our 329 00:17:52,430 --> 00:17:49,200 lives and it's as simple as that and 330 00:17:56,270 --> 00:17:52,440 heart is it now when you write something 331 00:18:00,760 --> 00:17:56,280 like this with this kind of impact did 332 00:18:04,190 --> 00:18:00,770 you find people were approaching you 333 00:18:05,260 --> 00:18:04,200 with they were expecting you to be like 334 00:18:07,779 --> 00:18:05,270 the Dalai Lama 335 00:18:13,220 --> 00:18:07,789 [Laughter] 336 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:13,230 you know the spiritual guide an entity 337 00:18:18,650 --> 00:18:13,890 and they 338 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:18,660 they were but I've met you just James 339 00:18:25,310 --> 00:18:22,010 Redfield but was there this kind of 340 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:25,320 expectation that you found yourself in 341 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:30,450 and a certain responsibility well I 342 00:18:35,390 --> 00:18:32,880 certainly wanted to be clear about the 343 00:18:38,410 --> 00:18:35,400 book and I you know I made I was 344 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:38,420 determined you know that I had you know 345 00:18:43,820 --> 00:18:40,770 speaking engagements from the very 346 00:18:46,850 --> 00:18:43,830 beginning but what I tried to do is 347 00:18:48,130 --> 00:18:46,860 reflect all that energy you know James 348 00:18:52,970 --> 00:18:48,140 has all the answers 349 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:52,980 back on the audience right and I learned 350 00:18:59,180 --> 00:18:56,250 how to do that so that when they you 351 00:19:00,520 --> 00:18:59,190 know when I got the questions yeah I 352 00:19:03,669 --> 00:19:00,530 would just say well what's your 353 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:03,679 intuitive answer to that question so 354 00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:11,210 that's the way I avoided being you know 355 00:19:17,780 --> 00:19:15,600 overwhelmed by expectation and it was 356 00:19:21,140 --> 00:19:17,790 also my opinion then that that you know 357 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:21,150 this book needed to just permeate the 358 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:23,130 world I mean it didn't need to touch 359 00:19:29,150 --> 00:19:25,890 people's consciousness in the way the 360 00:19:33,340 --> 00:19:29,160 book turned out to be able to do tonight 361 00:19:36,169 --> 00:19:33,350 I'm not back away from any kind of 362 00:19:40,820 --> 00:19:36,179 teaching modality or in Bryans I haven't 363 00:19:44,140 --> 00:19:40,830 done that until just recently right did 364 00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:44,150 it did it did it ultimately work for you 365 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:52,260 well you know I got I got a lot of you 366 00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:55,290 know during the during the first tour 367 00:20:03,950 --> 00:20:00,960 with the book I got a lot of sort of 368 00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:03,960 negative reactions for the you know 369 00:20:11,539 --> 00:20:07,919 spiritual community but not what you 370 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:11,549 might think because and again this is 371 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:15,450 there's nothing in the book that really 372 00:20:20,900 --> 00:20:17,690 challenges anybody's religious beliefs 373 00:20:25,220 --> 00:20:20,910 it's about how do we apply whatever this 374 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:25,230 is we think we're we're you know opening 375 00:20:32,660 --> 00:20:27,810 up to and and how do we make it work in 376 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:32,670 lives so you know I don't I'm I just I 377 00:20:41,030 --> 00:20:38,400 tried to be less of a media figure and 378 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:41,040 just keep writing the books in it and as 379 00:20:49,450 --> 00:20:44,690 you know I've written four in the series 380 00:20:52,730 --> 00:20:49,460 so that was my game plan although now 381 00:20:55,810 --> 00:20:52,740 because of what I think is happening out 382 00:21:00,650 --> 00:20:55,820 there I'm much more active as a teacher 383 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:00,660 there is a couple of more questions 384 00:21:06,290 --> 00:21:02,370 about the old days and then we're gonna 385 00:21:07,460 --> 00:21:06,300 move on to today but because this is the 386 00:21:09,860 --> 00:21:07,470 first time that you've been on the show 387 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:09,870 with this is my first opportunity to ask 388 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:11,490 these questions and certainly the next 389 00:21:20,420 --> 00:21:14,850 time you're on the show we're gonna how 390 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:20,430 it arrives to me and the the you 391 00:21:29,540 --> 00:21:24,450 mentioned novel earlier and you did try 392 00:21:32,990 --> 00:21:29,550 to drive that home back then but as I 393 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:33,000 read it and and so many others but I I 394 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:37,290 read it as a novel but it seemed to me 395 00:21:41,870 --> 00:21:39,930 that this book was you and your 396 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:41,880 experiences and that you went to Peru 397 00:21:47,870 --> 00:21:44,370 and that you found this cave and you 398 00:21:53,290 --> 00:21:47,880 discover these things how much of it is 399 00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:53,300 part of your you know a nonfiction 400 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:00,240 setting I would say now quite a bit 401 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:05,280 it was pretty mystical going there for 402 00:22:11,870 --> 00:22:08,610 one thing but but I it was also a 403 00:22:13,670 --> 00:22:11,880 combinations experiences you know in 404 00:22:16,970 --> 00:22:13,680 Sedona Arizona 405 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:16,980 you know some other places right so you 406 00:22:22,220 --> 00:22:19,470 know it's certainly a novel about my 407 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:22,230 experience and experiences that I've 408 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:27,570 witnessed in others because you know the 409 00:22:33,980 --> 00:22:30,690 reality of it you know what I really 410 00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:33,990 wanted to drive home was this is you 411 00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:36,720 know that consciousness is something 412 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:39,630 that we all have accessed it 413 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:43,650 it's and it's a it's mainly a matter of 414 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:47,490 not doing rather than doing if you can't 415 00:22:54,530 --> 00:22:50,610 beat the door down you know yes you have 416 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:54,540 to you have to open the door and go walk 417 00:23:00,260 --> 00:22:57,210 through it but you can't just beat the 418 00:23:03,380 --> 00:23:00,270 door down so it's you know it's you know 419 00:23:06,980 --> 00:23:03,390 my feeling about it back then was that I 420 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:06,990 what I was writing was a set of 421 00:23:15,050 --> 00:23:11,850 experiences that the whole world was 422 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:15,060 opening up to and that were for the most 423 00:23:21,650 --> 00:23:18,170 part at least the first nine of these 424 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:21,660 insights but now call abilities but 425 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:24,810 abilities of consciousness but you know 426 00:23:32,150 --> 00:23:27,930 I wrote that first book knowing full 427 00:23:35,150 --> 00:23:32,160 well that people had had achieved the 428 00:23:37,820 --> 00:23:35,160 states that I was describing in that 429 00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:37,830 book and it was in the world and it was 430 00:23:44,750 --> 00:23:40,350 just a matter of people finding their 431 00:23:47,270 --> 00:23:44,760 own their own track into it and and that 432 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:47,280 happens as you know in a variety of ways 433 00:23:56,210 --> 00:23:51,770 well and here we are today in 2020 and 434 00:23:58,790 --> 00:23:56,220 the book is probably James more 435 00:24:05,390 --> 00:23:58,800 important today than it was in 1996 436 00:24:10,550 --> 00:24:05,400 right we need this yeah yeah and and 437 00:24:14,930 --> 00:24:10,560 let's stay right there in in 1995 1996 438 00:24:17,330 --> 00:24:14,940 we were in the midst of big change the 439 00:24:19,730 --> 00:24:17,340 internet technology things were 440 00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:19,740 happening around us and and and the 441 00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:22,830 world was moving very very quickly and 442 00:24:30,910 --> 00:24:26,910 and now here in in 2020 instead of being 443 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:30,920 brought together were more divided today 444 00:24:38,150 --> 00:24:36,080 consciousness is confused right well I 445 00:24:44,780 --> 00:24:38,160 wouldn't agree with that completely 446 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:44,790 I think what's confused is the secular 447 00:24:53,270 --> 00:24:49,730 world and at the level of consciousness 448 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:53,280 you know that that's operating 449 00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:55,289 beneath that I mean I know we all get 450 00:25:01,990 --> 00:24:56,940 caught up in politics or something like 451 00:25:04,580 --> 00:25:02,000 that and we get it you know it makes us 452 00:25:07,210 --> 00:25:04,590 what's happening the divisions we see 453 00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,220 you know that makes us sad and and 454 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:09,600 wondering why we're going backwards 455 00:25:15,260 --> 00:25:12,720 maybe or something like that right but 456 00:25:18,770 --> 00:25:15,270 fact is you know there's more 457 00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:18,780 consciousness at the base level among 458 00:25:22,399 --> 00:25:20,640 people who seek consciousness than 459 00:25:24,110 --> 00:25:22,409 there's ever been before there's more 460 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:24,120 meditation in the world and it's never 461 00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:28,110 been forth before there is more seeking 462 00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:32,190 of consciousness and steps into 463 00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:34,289 consciousness than ever before and and 464 00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:35,820 the most important thing about what's 465 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:40,110 happening now is that we have two new 466 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:43,250 generations coming online suddenly 467 00:25:51,409 --> 00:25:48,570 asking the big questions and that it's 468 00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:51,419 amplifying this whole search for wisdom 469 00:26:01,610 --> 00:25:55,620 and meaning in life and all the rest for 470 00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:01,620 you when everybody has a family and an 471 00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:04,830 upbringing and a belief system that is 472 00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:09,200 as shown to us you know as we grow up 473 00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:16,590 but at some point we rebel I don't know 474 00:26:23,210 --> 00:26:19,110 about the world as I was taught it feels 475 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:23,220 a little bit different to me and I'm 476 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:24,570 sure you went through the exact same 477 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:27,530 thing do you remember the moment where 478 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:29,970 you started to look at the world with 479 00:26:38,779 --> 00:26:34,250 squinty eyes I'm starting to question 480 00:26:42,110 --> 00:26:38,789 question things absolutely yeah I grew 481 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:42,120 up in a fairly rural area you know my 482 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:47,850 father was and again in Alabama and my 483 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:49,890 father was but my father was from 484 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:53,250 California you know we were right in the 485 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:54,690 middle in Birmingham we're right in the 486 00:27:02,180 --> 00:26:57,770 middle of the civil rights movement and 487 00:27:06,770 --> 00:27:02,190 as a try I mean as a barely a teenager 488 00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:06,780 not even a teenager I was you know I got 489 00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:07,230 his clothes 490 00:27:13,580 --> 00:27:09,510 to the fire hoses as I could write 491 00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:13,590 because I could not believe that could 492 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:15,840 not understand it right and my dad was 493 00:27:21,620 --> 00:27:19,049 on the right side of that issue which 494 00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:21,630 meant I could really not understand it 495 00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:25,679 and but what happened was you know that 496 00:27:32,150 --> 00:27:27,990 was probably the wake-up call you know 497 00:27:34,430 --> 00:27:32,160 the world is bigger than you know this 498 00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:34,440 this wherever we grew even in the big 499 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:36,240 city it's still bigger than we thought 500 00:27:46,750 --> 00:27:42,570 and but my mother was also into you know 501 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:46,760 she was into the early writings of the 502 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:50,370 the sort of alternative spiritualist you 503 00:27:58,970 --> 00:27:53,850 know and and she followed psychics like 504 00:28:01,820 --> 00:27:58,980 Arthur Ford and and you know Edgar Cayce 505 00:28:03,980 --> 00:28:01,830 and that sort of thing so I suddenly 506 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:03,990 thought went in that room not a grew up 507 00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:07,440 we grew up you know you know very the 508 00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:11,880 Methodist Church that she took me to was 509 00:28:19,820 --> 00:28:16,070 a great kind of brooding ground for 510 00:28:21,620 --> 00:28:19,830 asking questions because you know the 511 00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:21,630 people there they were basically 512 00:28:28,690 --> 00:28:24,480 Christian but not not conservative 513 00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:28,700 Christian so much as a kind of lived 514 00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:31,500 Christianity so they had a they had had 515 00:28:37,070 --> 00:28:33,150 tapped into a consciousness that I 516 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:37,080 noticed and but they they didn't know 517 00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,510 how to talk about it and that's that's 518 00:28:44,930 --> 00:28:42,240 been the problem all through the 20th 519 00:28:48,140 --> 00:28:44,940 century you know we didn't know how to 520 00:28:50,030 --> 00:28:48,150 talk about it and what what the 521 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:50,040 importance part of the parts were we 522 00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:52,650 know we could chap into this this kind 523 00:28:59,780 --> 00:28:56,880 of blissful state and and something like 524 00:29:02,270 --> 00:28:59,790 included guidance kind of or intuitive 525 00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:02,280 intelligence developed and yeah that's 526 00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:04,620 all that happening in in people and they 527 00:29:13,130 --> 00:29:08,880 were cool they face death being cool 528 00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:13,140 right they were there there's they had 529 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:16,260 something you know and so oh but they 530 00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:17,640 they didn't know how to talk to me about 531 00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:19,710 it so I had to get out of there and they 532 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:20,880 they practic 533 00:29:25,550 --> 00:29:23,850 he kicked me out and said you know go to 534 00:29:27,070 --> 00:29:25,560 college because you're asking too many 535 00:29:30,110 --> 00:29:27,080 questions 536 00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:30,120 and that's exactly what I did and then 537 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:33,600 just dug into what I didn't realize was 538 00:29:39,230 --> 00:29:37,410 the human potential movement and you 539 00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:39,240 know that started with Carl Jung you 540 00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:40,830 know that's just a name to a lot of 541 00:29:48,250 --> 00:29:43,520 people out there but famous psychologist 542 00:29:52,750 --> 00:29:48,260 who was a protege of Freud and broke and 543 00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:52,760 took psychoanalysis which really means 544 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:56,190 thinking deeply about what's going on in 545 00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:58,050 your life right well you know how the 546 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:01,440 past affected you to the spiritual level 547 00:30:07,820 --> 00:30:04,650 he interjected the idea of archetypes 548 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:07,830 and not to get too deep in the weeds but 549 00:30:16,490 --> 00:30:10,650 we all have a part of our brain and soul 550 00:30:20,650 --> 00:30:16,500 is wired to wake up and to move into 551 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:20,660 this this kind of consciousness and slow 552 00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:26,370 and when it happens we know it and I 553 00:30:30,830 --> 00:30:28,560 think we can we know how to just start 554 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:30,840 from scratch and enter that for the 555 00:30:37,780 --> 00:30:35,730 first time and for it 556 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:37,790 I think human potential movement is 557 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:41,450 reaching a crescendo of consensus about 558 00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:44,250 how to move into these mystical States 559 00:30:48,140 --> 00:30:47,220 that can energize our lives in a very 560 00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:48,150 positive way 561 00:30:53,150 --> 00:30:50,820 was there a Zen we've got about three 562 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:53,160 minutes before the break was there a 563 00:30:59,810 --> 00:30:57,090 little Zen community in 1975 Birmingham 564 00:31:01,970 --> 00:30:59,820 for you to hang out with we're reading 565 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:01,980 like Carlos Castaneda and zen and the 566 00:31:08,810 --> 00:31:04,650 art of motorcycle maintenance you know 567 00:31:12,650 --> 00:31:08,820 how did you when I was you know I I 568 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:12,660 moved out and headed to college and went 569 00:31:19,490 --> 00:31:15,210 to Auburn and albarn like every other 570 00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:19,500 college at that time had people 571 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:20,790 following the human potential movement 572 00:31:25,580 --> 00:31:22,770 and we're talking about Eastern 573 00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:25,590 meditation Eastern thought and how does 574 00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:29,550 that affect daily life and all those 575 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:31,740 questions that were going on and yeah 576 00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:34,090 there was there were meditative in 577 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:35,470 I mean this is the heart of the south 578 00:31:39,390 --> 00:31:37,930 right and they were already you know the 579 00:31:44,550 --> 00:31:39,400 human potential measurement started in 580 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:44,560 San Francisco really with a Tesla and in 581 00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:46,570 a big way in the United States so that's 582 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:49,720 where it all started but you know I 583 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:51,160 could order it from all but I could 584 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:54,970 order all the books that about the you 585 00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:56,290 know of what they were doing at the 586 00:32:01,560 --> 00:31:59,170 Stanford Research Institute and get them 587 00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:01,570 shipped right to the auburn library and 588 00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:04,870 that's exactly what I did so it's a time 589 00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:08,560 when this crescendo was already 590 00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:11,080 happening in academia you know and among 591 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:13,990 the kids that we're also rebelling 592 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:16,690 against it no more how was it we've got 593 00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:19,810 60 seconds before the break for you to 594 00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:23,230 finally have this this information and 595 00:32:30,150 --> 00:32:26,590 friendships you know with your student 596 00:32:32,370 --> 00:32:30,160 friends and at Auburn how freeing was it 597 00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:32,380 for you were you just out of control 598 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:35,680 with with consuming all of this I can 599 00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:37,890 imagine it must have been very freeing 600 00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:41,680 yeah well it was it was it was 601 00:32:48,650 --> 00:32:45,070 interesting we were still only looking 602 00:32:50,790 --> 00:32:48,660 at it from the mental theoretical 603 00:32:53,490 --> 00:32:50,800 theoretical point of view though you 604 00:32:56,580 --> 00:32:53,500 know we haven't really had you know this 605 00:33:02,670 --> 00:32:56,590 kind of what we'd call now a hard 606 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:02,680 opening you know moment of peak 607 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:04,450 experience you know we didn't have any 608 00:33:11,070 --> 00:33:07,690 of those in the sense that we would talk 609 00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:11,080 about it now but if we were interested 610 00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:15,480 we knew that we're onto an idea and that 611 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:19,830 that was somehow our birthright and and 612 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:23,050 we were all chasing that certainly 613 00:33:30,420 --> 00:33:26,530 everybody din and in our circle you know 614 00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:30,430 it must have been amazing it's just only 615 00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:34,960 because and especially at that age were 616 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:37,630 confused we don't we don't know where 617 00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:41,650 confused let's take a break right here 618 00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:44,200 our guest tonight James Redfield this is 619 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:45,790 gonna be a great conversation you stay 620 00:33:48,150 --> 00:33:46,210 right 621 00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:48,160 they're author of The Celestine Prophecy 622 00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,320 when we come back we'll continue the 623 00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:52,480 conversation it's going to be great this 624 00:33:58,290 --> 00:33:54,520 is fade to black I'm use to me Church of 625 00:34:00,500 --> 00:33:58,300 the GameChanger network in kg RA the 626 00:34:02,970 --> 00:34:00,510 planet you can follow James on Twitter 627 00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:02,980 we've got as links up right there it's 628 00:34:07,630 --> 00:34:05,800 changed underscore Redfield we'll be 629 00:34:24,990 --> 00:34:07,640 right back stay with us 630 00:34:36,789 --> 00:34:31,119 alright I'm back I just that was me I 631 00:34:40,779 --> 00:34:36,799 was i literally bumped our audio rack 632 00:34:42,250 --> 00:34:40,789 and stop the commercial playback so 633 00:34:47,049 --> 00:34:42,260 that's it we just came back from 634 00:34:50,589 --> 00:34:47,059 commercial just like that and James you 635 00:34:53,049 --> 00:34:50,599 gotta love live radio right that was 636 00:34:57,339 --> 00:34:53,059 just too funny I was just goofing around 637 00:35:02,160 --> 00:34:57,349 and and I spun my chair and my knee hit 638 00:35:05,260 --> 00:35:02,170 the stop button on the rack of of gear 639 00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:05,270 what happened okay alright and if that 640 00:35:11,740 --> 00:35:09,260 fires back up let me mute this okay one 641 00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:11,750 of the questions in James that I have 642 00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:14,990 for so many guests and I've done almost 643 00:35:21,279 --> 00:35:17,839 2,000 interviews over the years that's 644 00:35:23,650 --> 00:35:21,289 that so that's a lot and I've gotten 645 00:35:26,650 --> 00:35:23,660 nearly a different answer to this 646 00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:26,660 question every time I can't wait to hear 647 00:35:34,349 --> 00:35:29,569 your answer which is what is 648 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:34,359 consciousness what's your definition 649 00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:37,849 it's it's and this is this will sound a 650 00:35:49,329 --> 00:35:40,880 little convoluted but it's being aware 651 00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:49,339 of more and more around you okay so and 652 00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:52,190 look what that means is and it's at the 653 00:36:00,160 --> 00:35:57,200 top of this this opening is an awareness 654 00:36:04,329 --> 00:36:00,170 that you know the Mystics talk about 655 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:04,339 which is a a perception of the universe 656 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:08,240 and all that's behind the universe and 657 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:12,010 and included in the universe from a 658 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:15,170 perceptual point of view now I don't 659 00:36:22,569 --> 00:36:19,970 think I mean we're the the thing about 660 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:22,579 planet Earth is that we are we are going 661 00:36:27,730 --> 00:36:25,970 together we're you know we're making 662 00:36:29,859 --> 00:36:27,740 progress together because we're all 663 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:29,869 Clara went to each other which means 664 00:36:37,420 --> 00:36:32,690 there's just really one mind you know 665 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:37,430 that we share with everybody and it the 666 00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:38,610 healing of the 667 00:36:44,650 --> 00:36:43,140 as culture is all about opening up to a 668 00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:44,660 little more opening up to that 669 00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:48,560 unification we have with everybody and 670 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:50,910 agreeing on more and more things that's 671 00:36:58,610 --> 00:36:54,930 really in my view what we're here on the 672 00:37:01,900 --> 00:36:58,620 planet for is to unify and agree on two 673 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:01,910 things one what is our spiritual nature 674 00:37:14,930 --> 00:37:09,450 and what where are we where are we going 675 00:37:16,250 --> 00:37:14,940 with that and yet people from every 676 00:37:19,850 --> 00:37:16,260 direction would say well we're going 677 00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:19,860 back home okay well right now we're not 678 00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:21,960 going anywhere you know it feels like 679 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:24,060 we're going in circles too much right 680 00:37:30,740 --> 00:37:28,050 but again I believe that here that 681 00:37:34,060 --> 00:37:30,750 you'll fear and I call it darkness 682 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:34,070 you know the darkness is separating and 683 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:37,770 the the unification the other high speed 684 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:41,130 evolution of the planet is happening 685 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:43,890 among the people that are generating 686 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:47,310 that so that's a long answer but it 687 00:37:53,060 --> 00:37:49,050 means we're because we're becoming more 688 00:37:54,250 --> 00:37:53,070 and more aware not just of that we're 689 00:37:57,340 --> 00:37:54,260 here 690 00:38:00,020 --> 00:37:57,350 spiritual one of you not knowing why and 691 00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:00,030 we're systematically learning more and 692 00:38:05,210 --> 00:38:01,590 more and agreeing on the nature of our 693 00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:05,220 spirituality and then we're unifying 694 00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:07,380 around that and that's that's the game 695 00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:10,140 that's the master game for Humanities 696 00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:11,910 since the very beginning 697 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:14,760 well those the answer to those two 698 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:23,430 questions are infinite what you get you 699 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:26,970 know and as you explore certainly those 700 00:38:33,050 --> 00:38:29,330 two questions are so fundamental 701 00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:33,060 absolutely but I built in yeah bill weir 702 00:38:37,490 --> 00:38:35,030 they're built into our souls right 703 00:38:40,670 --> 00:38:37,500 because we know that's the game and 704 00:38:42,770 --> 00:38:40,680 we're trying to unify at the same time 705 00:38:46,430 --> 00:38:42,780 we argue about what there's you know 706 00:38:49,630 --> 00:38:46,440 what is our spiritual nature and but we 707 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:49,640 have evidence we're generating evidence 708 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:51,450 experientially 709 00:38:59,920 --> 00:38:55,290 that we can agree on more and more as to 710 00:39:03,680 --> 00:38:59,930 how we can step become more conscious 711 00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:03,690 spiritually is there I think we're I 712 00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:05,880 think we almost have the operation 713 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:08,640 manual down for planet Earth 714 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:12,930 we're getting close I I agree but we may 715 00:39:19,250 --> 00:39:14,370 not have the answers for another 716 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:19,260 thousand years right 717 00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:22,730 the then there's the other fundamental 718 00:39:27,650 --> 00:39:26,510 which is what is the progenitor of 719 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:27,660 consciousness 720 00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:30,930 where does it start or is that in and of 721 00:39:41,090 --> 00:39:31,740 itself 722 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:41,100 infinite well we all while we you know 723 00:39:50,330 --> 00:39:45,690 that consciousness itself has a source 724 00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:50,340 within right right and so that's where 725 00:39:57,020 --> 00:39:52,800 it all starts it's being suddenly being 726 00:40:00,320 --> 00:39:57,030 aware that you are living a life at a 727 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:00,330 higher level you know and and and start 728 00:40:06,380 --> 00:40:04,650 to realize that you can that you can you 729 00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:06,390 can live the hard way or the easy way 730 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:09,480 and there's a big consensus coming out 731 00:40:12,740 --> 00:40:11,490 of the human potential movement and that 732 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:12,750 movement is important to know about 733 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:14,610 because the human potential movement 734 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:18,090 started with Coggins I mentioned but it 735 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:20,010 has progressed for a hundred years it's 736 00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:25,170 a hundred years old and we have we can't 737 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:30,270 we know that we have come to a clarity 738 00:40:37,970 --> 00:40:33,510 about certain aspects of this 739 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:37,980 consciousness and how to have you grow 740 00:40:43,810 --> 00:40:39,690 in consciousness or open up more to 741 00:40:48,110 --> 00:40:43,820 consciousness but also to energize the 742 00:40:52,370 --> 00:40:48,120 certain impulses and goals that we seem 743 00:40:56,510 --> 00:40:52,380 to come here with to help humanity 744 00:40:59,240 --> 00:40:56,520 evolve and so anyway I think we're 745 00:41:03,050 --> 00:40:59,250 reaching a clarity about that why is it 746 00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:03,060 you just mentioned one of the most 747 00:41:07,610 --> 00:41:05,310 brilliant statements that you can make 748 00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:07,620 which is we've got two choices the hard 749 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:10,440 road or the easy road right or you know 750 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:15,170 the the good or the bad why is it that 751 00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:20,490 doing the wrong thing is so easy why why 752 00:41:27,650 --> 00:41:24,390 why you know it it seems the safest path 753 00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:27,660 you know it seems safe you know you can 754 00:41:34,580 --> 00:41:31,260 you know if your taker you know you can 755 00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:34,590 you know it it seems like you're taking 756 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:36,720 care of your security by taking from 757 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:38,130 others right and that's how you 758 00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,690 rationalize that there's no meaning to 759 00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:41,280 the world you know that the whole 760 00:41:49,070 --> 00:41:46,560 secular atheist sort of mantle is you 761 00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:49,080 know you took your you can invent and do 762 00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:50,790 whatever you want to because there's no 763 00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:52,680 meaning to the world we're all accidents 764 00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:56,760 of of the universe of evolution or all 765 00:42:02,440 --> 00:41:59,760 the things they say right in its face 766 00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:02,450 you know because we're without 767 00:42:09,380 --> 00:42:05,040 consciousness you have spiritual 768 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:09,390 consciousness what we are is just people 769 00:42:14,510 --> 00:42:12,570 run around trying to get the best we do 770 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:14,520 the best we can with our egos in life 771 00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:17,210 and as you say that that's the hard way 772 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:20,880 and I can tell you the most spiritual 773 00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:25,170 person on this planet is a physicist 774 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:28,200 atheist when the plane is about to crash 775 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:34,170 I guarantee it more spiritual than you 776 00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:39,690 and I combined and and and this is this 777 00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:42,000 is what I find really interesting is 778 00:42:49,580 --> 00:42:46,800 that and you just mentioned this a 779 00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:49,590 minute ago in that we are closer to 780 00:42:57,790 --> 00:42:53,180 finding these answers and so is science 781 00:43:00,020 --> 00:42:57,800 they are pushing all of those atheist 782 00:43:02,060 --> 00:43:00,030 scientists physicists that are out there 783 00:43:05,060 --> 00:43:02,070 trying to figure out at the quantum 784 00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:05,070 level what is going on they are starting 785 00:43:09,860 --> 00:43:06,870 to find out that consciousness is a 786 00:43:12,980 --> 00:43:09,870 problem for them because that's that's 787 00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:12,990 an issue that is out there that they and 788 00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:15,990 and as science and consciousness and 789 00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:18,640 spirituality now we're starting to 790 00:43:25,470 --> 00:43:21,430 overlap and and they don't like that 791 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:25,480 they don't and and once once that blows 792 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:29,890 out then their belief system collapses 793 00:43:33,150 --> 00:43:31,330 in that there is nothing you know 794 00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:33,160 there's no ghosts there's no life after 795 00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:35,710 death there is no spirituality there is 796 00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:38,710 no conscious but they're gonna find out 797 00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:42,790 that there is aren't they yes absolutely 798 00:43:48,090 --> 00:43:45,160 there's so much evidence from from the 799 00:43:49,970 --> 00:43:48,100 near-death experience research that 800 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:49,980 they're you know we're basically 801 00:43:58,020 --> 00:43:54,490 spiritual entities in this world trying 802 00:44:02,790 --> 00:43:58,030 to keep our energy field from you know 803 00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:02,800 getting sick because the way we treat 804 00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:05,200 this energy field that we call our body 805 00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:08,830 you know so there's there's a big 806 00:44:16,650 --> 00:44:11,080 wake-up call happening everywhere and so 807 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:16,660 the but the dark side is very very you 808 00:44:20,850 --> 00:44:18,730 know this materialists hanging on to 809 00:44:23,550 --> 00:44:20,860 this materialism there's nothing but 810 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:23,560 material nothing but the things we can 811 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:25,530 have fun with or you know the 812 00:44:31,590 --> 00:44:28,450 relationships we have you know and 813 00:44:34,020 --> 00:44:31,600 that's all there is and and they they 814 00:44:37,830 --> 00:44:34,030 don't want to think about what happens 815 00:44:40,290 --> 00:44:37,840 in the afterlife in fact you know the 816 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:40,300 humanity was almost totally closed off 817 00:44:44,730 --> 00:44:42,010 and we had all these religious pictures 818 00:44:47,070 --> 00:44:44,740 of people flying you know floating on 819 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:47,080 clouds and playing harps as you know 820 00:44:52,650 --> 00:44:50,170 that's heaven right but really they 821 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:52,660 didn't want to know I mean they didn't 822 00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:55,210 want to bring up the question so that's 823 00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:57,550 why you know people leave their 824 00:45:00,420 --> 00:44:59,050 relatives in the nursing home and never 825 00:45:02,970 --> 00:45:00,430 visit because they don't want to be 826 00:45:05,220 --> 00:45:02,980 reminded that they're going to get old 827 00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:05,230 you know it's a howl of death you know 828 00:45:12,170 --> 00:45:09,730 long you know so many books when that 829 00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:12,180 that have really penetrated our 830 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:14,260 consciousness and mainly the near-death 831 00:45:20,070 --> 00:45:17,650 experience research that really woke us 832 00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:20,080 up and and I called that you know that 833 00:45:25,860 --> 00:45:22,960 this was my second book you know and and 834 00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:25,870 it it came long after the first nine 835 00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:29,680 insights because what I was doing is 836 00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:32,350 trying to as I mentioned you know I was 837 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:32,710 trying to 838 00:45:39,329 --> 00:45:36,130 chronicled these steps in human 839 00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:39,339 evolution it felt like insights that 840 00:45:44,220 --> 00:45:42,190 were changing everybody and first night 841 00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:44,230 I knew are already out there but you 842 00:45:48,450 --> 00:45:47,140 know had my you know had my publisher 843 00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:48,460 saying well look you got to you got to 844 00:45:53,070 --> 00:45:50,800 write another book you know I write the 845 00:45:55,170 --> 00:45:53,080 tenth inside man so well I don't even 846 00:45:56,849 --> 00:45:55,180 know if there is a tenth inside the only 847 00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:56,859 one I'm the only ones I know about is 848 00:46:05,070 --> 00:45:59,410 tonight you know this steps in awakeness 849 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:05,080 right and but soon I realized with all 850 00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:07,570 the near-death experience yeah we were 851 00:46:15,570 --> 00:46:12,640 having another revelation in human human 852 00:46:18,270 --> 00:46:15,580 thought and human understanding 853 00:46:20,579 --> 00:46:18,280 and that's when we finally realized that 854 00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:20,589 you know all this religious talk about 855 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:23,680 heaven was a real place that we come 856 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:26,170 from and go back to you know I mean 857 00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:29,050 there's tons of research looking at 858 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:32,440 these testimonies of people who've died 859 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:35,650 and come back and you know it's very 860 00:46:41,070 --> 00:46:37,930 persuasive on what the process is when 861 00:46:43,050 --> 00:46:41,080 we come over and and really thanks to 862 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:43,060 dannion brinkley process what the 863 00:46:54,750 --> 00:46:49,410 process is going back the other way the 864 00:46:59,250 --> 00:46:54,760 the ideas of quantum entanglement 865 00:47:02,010 --> 00:46:59,260 quantum physics the things that happen 866 00:47:05,310 --> 00:47:02,020 in that world of science and i'm talking 867 00:47:08,730 --> 00:47:05,320 about the multiverse in parallel world 868 00:47:12,990 --> 00:47:08,740 and and of course entanglement all of 869 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:13,000 this suggests the near-death experience 870 00:47:23,609 --> 00:47:21,180 if they're going to say because of 871 00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:23,619 string theory that there is another 872 00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:27,190 seven dimensions beyond the the three or 873 00:47:35,010 --> 00:47:29,920 four that we live in if they want to 874 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:35,020 suggest all of this then that is heaven 875 00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:38,170 right or another dimension in another 876 00:47:43,710 --> 00:47:41,950 world and unconsciousness and in beings 877 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:43,720 that are living in those 878 00:47:50,370 --> 00:47:45,970 world's you can't have one without the 879 00:47:51,930 --> 00:47:50,380 other can you well you know it's I don't 880 00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,940 know that they've tied it together I 881 00:47:59,790 --> 00:47:53,440 don't think they have the mathematics of 882 00:48:02,880 --> 00:47:59,800 of a dimension we can actually large 883 00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:02,890 enough to really walk around him but I 884 00:48:10,410 --> 00:48:07,200 think that it's the concept is out 885 00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,420 that's right it's more validity to all 886 00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:13,119 our our traditions that's yeah there's 887 00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:15,910 there's some kind of afterlife and we 888 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:19,660 are spiritual beings and come here and 889 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:23,290 we go back and essentially leave our 890 00:48:29,150 --> 00:48:26,410 body here but our astral body goes with 891 00:48:35,820 --> 00:48:29,160 us and that's essentially who we are is 892 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:35,830 is consciousness electric is there a 893 00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:39,970 tangible side of consciousness you know 894 00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:45,040 is it measurable well you know they've 895 00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:48,070 done some experiments laying people 896 00:48:56,820 --> 00:48:51,190 water still lives on the deathbed and 897 00:49:01,500 --> 00:48:56,830 and and and just after they pass and the 898 00:49:09,690 --> 00:49:01,510 soul essentially leaves and they're 899 00:49:12,839 --> 00:49:09,700 lighter you know about so I don't know 900 00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:12,849 you know and that gets into into the 901 00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:15,520 weeds you know we've got a lot of 902 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:17,670 physicists out there we have a lot of 903 00:49:23,010 --> 00:49:20,170 mathematicians you know they want to 904 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:23,020 find a mathematical formula for at all 905 00:49:29,370 --> 00:49:25,450 and and there are some people out there 906 00:49:32,310 --> 00:49:29,380 trying and when that happens we'll have 907 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:32,320 a new physics dad I think as you 908 00:49:40,109 --> 00:49:35,410 suggested that's multi-dimensional I I 909 00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:40,119 can't wait for that I want there's a 910 00:49:48,089 --> 00:49:44,230 part of me James that I not in a 911 00:49:53,970 --> 00:49:48,099 negative sense but I need some folks out 912 00:49:56,820 --> 00:49:53,980 there to eat crow well you know they're 913 00:49:57,780 --> 00:49:56,830 already eating a good bit just because 914 00:50:02,520 --> 00:49:57,790 we 915 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:02,530 know and you know physicists don't 916 00:50:10,490 --> 00:50:04,330 really recognize any other science but 917 00:50:14,820 --> 00:50:10,500 their own but you know the the the 918 00:50:16,940 --> 00:50:14,830 psychological was validation you know 919 00:50:19,610 --> 00:50:16,950 but it's because of the the key 920 00:50:23,370 --> 00:50:19,620 experiences the spiritual consciousness 921 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:23,380 can be validated with you know we it's 922 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:26,530 easier now as I've said than ever before 923 00:50:35,540 --> 00:50:31,050 in consciousness to validate the Chiefs 924 00:50:38,850 --> 00:50:35,550 experiences that give us evidence of 925 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:38,860 there was we're spiritual we have a 926 00:50:45,690 --> 00:50:42,490 consciousness we're living in a universe 927 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:45,700 that's designed for us to pop into 928 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:49,050 consciousness and to virtually live 929 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:53,530 miracle kinds of lives and for the most 930 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:53,890 part 931 00:51:02,430 --> 00:50:57,370 nobody has not enough people have lived 932 00:51:05,070 --> 00:51:02,440 it lived this way but I'm saying openly 933 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:05,080 that you know we we know how to open up 934 00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:08,770 to this level of life in and that 935 00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:11,110 there's a design there's a karmic design 936 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:14,080 to the universe and for the first time 937 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:16,570 we were actually trying to get into 938 00:51:21,060 --> 00:51:18,490 alignment with that karmic design and 939 00:51:24,570 --> 00:51:21,070 then that's when everything changes how 940 00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:24,580 did we so quickly James even since the 941 00:51:33,390 --> 00:51:27,160 release of the Celestine Prophecy back 942 00:51:39,830 --> 00:51:33,400 in 95 96 how did we become so unraveled 943 00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:39,840 so quickly well just you know that's 944 00:51:47,340 --> 00:51:43,510 what's arrival Dizz the material has 945 00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:47,350 unraveled is the materialistic paradigm 946 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:50,800 right right everybody's you know they 947 00:52:01,170 --> 00:51:54,730 you know you know when religion the 948 00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:01,180 various kinds was in most dominant in 949 00:52:07,820 --> 00:52:04,030 the latter 20th century most dominant 950 00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:07,830 especially the United States right it 951 00:52:14,819 --> 00:52:11,680 was the pair it was it was 952 00:52:17,809 --> 00:52:14,829 mental it was all mental right so 953 00:52:20,819 --> 00:52:17,819 whenever you know and you know they're 954 00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:20,829 the 60s did happen you know there were a 955 00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:24,089 lot of drugs and there were a lot of 956 00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:28,030 encounter groups and in it the you know 957 00:52:33,390 --> 00:52:29,710 with the baby boomers there really 958 00:52:36,089 --> 00:52:33,400 started to be this experience of hard 959 00:52:38,339 --> 00:52:36,099 openings that experienced the defining 960 00:52:41,940 --> 00:52:38,349 those traumas in childhood and get rid 961 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:41,950 of them all that started and it because 962 00:52:50,490 --> 00:52:45,450 is experientially spiritual and 963 00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:50,500 conscious it start started to unravel 964 00:52:57,569 --> 00:52:55,569 the the the religious doctrines and in 965 00:53:00,180 --> 00:52:57,579 the religious paradigm they were at the 966 00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:00,190 ran in the world so that was a bit the 967 00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,040 unraveling now you know what what's 968 00:53:08,670 --> 00:53:06,000 unravelling is this materialistic 969 00:53:11,099 --> 00:53:08,680 paradigm you know that you know it's 970 00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:11,109 still going still you know but it's it's 971 00:53:18,450 --> 00:53:13,030 now the dark side they're having a fight 972 00:53:21,569 --> 00:53:18,460 to keep it in in in this rush of new 973 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:21,579 consciousness that they they fight they 974 00:53:28,430 --> 00:53:23,890 they invent things like they never 975 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:28,440 worried about immortality until you know 976 00:53:36,030 --> 00:53:32,650 we started believing and you know this 977 00:53:37,289 --> 00:53:36,040 is life beyond this and then they had to 978 00:53:39,799 --> 00:53:37,299 figure out okay well what's our 979 00:53:45,539 --> 00:53:39,809 immortality okay they're just gonna 980 00:53:48,180 --> 00:53:45,549 they're gonna put our mind so called 981 00:53:50,339 --> 00:53:48,190 into a computer hey you can live forever 982 00:53:52,650 --> 00:53:50,349 you know you you can be eternal we'll 983 00:53:54,270 --> 00:53:52,660 just put you in a computer and we'll you 984 00:53:57,839 --> 00:53:54,280 know in a robot and you can run around 985 00:53:59,309 --> 00:53:57,849 sounding like yourself and that's the 986 00:54:02,000 --> 00:53:59,319 promise that's the that's the only 987 00:54:05,970 --> 00:54:02,010 promise they have this transhumanism and 988 00:54:07,740 --> 00:54:05,980 and but it's important in the dark side 989 00:54:11,569 --> 00:54:07,750 you know it's all about control right 990 00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:11,579 and so that's getting worse and worse as 991 00:54:17,549 --> 00:54:14,230 consciousness rises because they're 992 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:17,559 reacting against the consciousness but 993 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:20,290 what they really are stuck in is just 994 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:25,570 pure ego insecurity has to control 995 00:54:32,930 --> 00:54:28,810 we'll keep control of most of the money 996 00:54:37,350 --> 00:54:32,940 in the world and and believe in this 997 00:54:39,570 --> 00:54:37,360 transhumanism and and and just just keep 998 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:39,580 it going because they can't let go you 999 00:54:45,330 --> 00:54:41,410 know they're they're kind of stuck in 1000 00:54:47,610 --> 00:54:45,340 that paradigm and that's the dark side 1001 00:54:49,590 --> 00:54:47,620 and it's getting smaller and the light 1002 00:54:53,010 --> 00:54:49,600 side and miles of you is getting larger 1003 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:53,020 even though it seems like it's just 1004 00:55:01,650 --> 00:54:56,410 chaos out there and chaos seems to 1005 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:01,660 always you know being evitable but it 1006 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:05,950 and to that end how far is this darkness 1007 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:09,850 gonna go right in other words we have to 1008 00:55:16,170 --> 00:55:11,770 go up to the edge of the cliff here and 1009 00:55:18,780 --> 00:55:16,180 take a peek at the ultimate chaos before 1010 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:18,790 we step back and go okay that's that's 1011 00:55:24,090 --> 00:55:22,210 the wrong path but how much farther do 1012 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:24,100 we have to take this before everybody 1013 00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:27,010 wakes up and goes okay alright enough is 1014 00:55:33,570 --> 00:55:29,470 enough here's what you look at in my 1015 00:55:39,330 --> 00:55:33,580 view it's what I look at who is seeking 1016 00:55:43,020 --> 00:55:39,340 control without any guarantee of that 1017 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:43,030 the end of the tool is paramount other 1018 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:46,570 words who is seeking control in a way 1019 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:52,090 that that that as a result of fear okay 1020 00:55:58,020 --> 00:55:54,730 all this is going wrong is you don't let 1021 00:56:01,110 --> 00:55:58,030 us control everything it's gonna fall 1022 00:56:03,420 --> 00:56:01,120 apart so that's their last-ditch effort 1023 00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:03,430 who's trying to get us into wars and 1024 00:56:10,430 --> 00:56:05,830 who's not you know that's how you 1025 00:56:13,410 --> 00:56:10,440 distort to define who's who is against 1026 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:13,420 natural and organic healing as an 1027 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:16,650 alternative to the pharmaceutical 1028 00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:21,010 control of the medical system right with 1029 00:56:27,330 --> 00:56:23,200 all that goes with that you know getting 1030 00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:27,340 everybody on four or five drugs no cures 1031 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:31,200 but they all tell us we can manage it 1032 00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:34,690 but it's control control the health 1033 00:56:39,780 --> 00:56:36,790 system control of Education control of 1034 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:39,790 all the things that should be helping 1035 00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:43,530 people wake up so the conscious people 1036 00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:46,720 have to step back and say okay the 1037 00:56:53,610 --> 00:56:51,250 world's turned upside down you know who 1038 00:56:57,780 --> 00:56:53,620 are the people that are trying to keep 1039 00:57:02,340 --> 00:56:57,790 us free free expression free creativity 1040 00:57:06,260 --> 00:57:02,350 and spirituality who is going to guard 1041 00:57:09,570 --> 00:57:06,270 that against the people that want to 1042 00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:09,580 throttle us down I mean social media 1043 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:11,350 right now it's not just throttling down 1044 00:57:16,830 --> 00:57:13,570 hate speech they're throttling down 1045 00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:16,840 anything that sounds a spiritual or 1046 00:57:26,190 --> 00:57:23,040 conscious or you know if you talk about 1047 00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:26,200 the certain principles like love in the 1048 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:29,200 universe that is not the materialistic 1049 00:57:34,890 --> 00:57:30,610 paradigm that their growth they're 1050 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:34,900 guarding so you know and I'm not I'm not 1051 00:57:40,550 --> 00:57:37,210 choosing sides or asking me anybody to 1052 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:40,560 sides I'm just saying guard your free 1053 00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:43,530 creativity and your spiritual path 1054 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:45,790 because there are people that want to 1055 00:57:54,450 --> 00:57:50,610 lock you into pharmaceutical matrix and 1056 00:58:00,030 --> 00:57:54,460 whoever is slowing that down is who we 1057 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:00,040 should support it's really it's one of 1058 00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:02,170 the points before we get to the break 1059 00:58:05,970 --> 00:58:04,510 one of the points that addresses exactly 1060 00:58:10,980 --> 00:58:05,980 what you're saying 1061 00:58:14,370 --> 00:58:10,990 when our youtube channel got shut down 1062 00:58:17,820 --> 00:58:14,380 I was sent we it took about a week and 1063 00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:17,830 we got it back but they sent me a list 1064 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:21,760 of things that cannot be talked about on 1065 00:58:28,530 --> 00:58:25,690 YouTube alright no some of them made 1066 00:58:29,370 --> 00:58:28,540 perfect sense and I get that but there 1067 00:58:33,890 --> 00:58:29,380 was other things 1068 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:33,900 it literally James herbs right 1069 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:40,450 supplements yes yes any alternative 1070 00:58:45,780 --> 00:58:42,490 anything right 1071 00:58:50,580 --> 00:58:45,790 I could I could freely talk about any 1072 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:50,590 pharmaceutical prescription drug no 1073 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:52,090 issues there 1074 00:59:01,020 --> 00:58:56,570 no issues anything else that that went 1075 00:59:04,270 --> 00:59:01,030 against the man right the money machine 1076 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:04,280 they they will shut you down without 1077 00:59:11,140 --> 00:59:08,690 without a warning yeah yeah and they 1078 00:59:14,190 --> 00:59:11,150 have the power to do that because both 1079 00:59:17,860 --> 00:59:14,200 parties in Congress in the United States 1080 00:59:21,550 --> 00:59:17,870 are controlled by these people totally 1081 00:59:24,430 --> 00:59:21,560 and so their their freedom fighters 1082 00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:24,440 stuck here and there but on both sides 1083 00:59:29,950 --> 00:59:27,680 right but you know so we have to and 1084 00:59:32,620 --> 00:59:29,960 from my point of view you I mean the 1085 00:59:36,310 --> 00:59:32,630 people I support or the freedom fighters 1086 00:59:39,460 --> 00:59:36,320 at this juncture in in in the you know 1087 00:59:43,450 --> 00:59:39,470 the human chaos right because you know 1088 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:43,460 it's it's a it's staying free having 1089 00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:49,370 free thought you know you can if you 1090 00:59:54,790 --> 00:59:51,680 know there's nobody it's been more 1091 00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:54,800 liberal than I have you know I I 1092 01:00:01,240 --> 00:59:58,250 supported all from a point when it was 1093 01:00:04,030 --> 01:00:01,250 about emancipating everybody but when 1094 01:00:05,890 --> 01:00:04,040 it's used to you know when the same 1095 01:00:08,590 --> 01:00:05,900 people are now talking about controlling 1096 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:08,600 everybody because they don't like to 1097 01:00:16,570 --> 01:00:13,810 talk then you know you have to step back 1098 01:00:18,430 --> 01:00:16,580 and say okay but the whole world's 1099 01:00:21,010 --> 01:00:18,440 upside the whole political world's 1100 01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:21,020 upside down and now we just have to 1101 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:24,110 fight the with in my view I try to 1102 01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:27,890 support the people that guard against 1103 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:30,110 the bureaucracy you know guard and I'm 1104 01:00:34,270 --> 01:00:31,850 not talking about government here so 1105 01:00:38,050 --> 01:00:34,280 much as I'm talking about the corporate 1106 01:00:41,220 --> 01:00:38,060 bureaucracy because you know they want 1107 01:00:46,350 --> 01:00:41,230 they do they want us to be divided and 1108 01:00:50,550 --> 01:00:46,360 you know controlling economic see the 1109 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:50,560 regions and they want us to you know 1110 01:00:58,900 --> 01:00:56,090 have to you know to take the economic 1111 01:01:01,300 --> 01:00:58,910 system that they want to create but this 1112 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:01,310 is not utopia they're building this is 1113 01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:04,250 not this is not the Greens of the 1114 01:01:10,019 --> 01:01:05,359 baby-boomers for 1115 01:01:14,140 --> 01:01:10,029 One World in unity this is a corporate 1116 01:01:18,579 --> 01:01:14,150 fascist entity that is taking advantage 1117 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:18,589 of a lot of naive people to gain full 1118 01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:20,690 control and then it's a desperate last 1119 01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:22,700 attempt I'm not saying they're going to 1120 01:01:27,190 --> 01:01:24,529 get away with it because I really did 1121 01:01:29,049 --> 01:01:27,200 not think they are but is there there's 1122 01:01:30,539 --> 01:01:29,059 an urgency to get to the light side to 1123 01:01:32,859 --> 01:01:30,549 get into the consciousness because 1124 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:32,869 that's the only antidote this is not a 1125 01:01:38,499 --> 01:01:35,450 war we're having with these people you 1126 01:01:41,049 --> 01:01:38,509 know they're they're in fear they think 1127 01:01:47,289 --> 01:01:41,059 they're going to lose their advantages 1128 01:01:48,579 --> 01:01:47,299 and so the only way is to you know move 1129 01:01:52,089 --> 01:01:48,589 in the consciousness because 1130 01:01:54,339 --> 01:01:52,099 consciousness is contagious and you know 1131 01:01:59,470 --> 01:01:54,349 the P individuals who are involved in 1132 01:02:02,289 --> 01:01:59,480 this network of corporate craziness they 1133 01:02:04,779 --> 01:02:02,299 can be yeah they'll they'll come over to 1134 01:02:06,670 --> 01:02:04,789 our side because they they look and they 1135 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:06,680 see us and they they say something more 1136 01:02:12,130 --> 01:02:09,130 free and more creative and more 1137 01:02:15,069 --> 01:02:12,140 satisfying and more healthy and all the 1138 01:02:18,460 --> 01:02:15,079 rest and so that's it's a replacement 1139 01:02:20,229 --> 01:02:18,470 yes not a war where was speaking of 1140 01:02:24,279 --> 01:02:20,239 corporate greed I got to take a break 1141 01:02:27,339 --> 01:02:24,289 here and run some commercials guest 1142 01:02:28,809 --> 01:02:27,349 tonight is James Redfield and I knew it 1143 01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:28,819 was gonna be this great of a 1144 01:02:31,749 --> 01:02:30,079 conversation and we'll pick up 1145 01:02:34,329 --> 01:02:31,759 everything when we come back after the 1146 01:02:37,779 --> 01:02:34,339 break all of the links for James are 1147 01:02:41,489 --> 01:02:37,789 right there at Jimmy Church radio.com 1148 01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:41,499 and I'm wondering we wrote the hurricane 1149 01:02:44,739 --> 01:02:43,910 scared myself I'll be right back after 1150 01:02:49,010 --> 01:02:44,749 this short break 1151 01:02:49,020 --> 01:03:30,380 [Music] 1152 01:03:34,140 --> 01:03:32,430 welcome back fade to black 1153 01:03:37,950 --> 01:03:34,150 I am your host Jimmy Church you can 1154 01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:37,960 subscribe to our podcast it is just two 1155 01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:40,720 dollars per month we have over eleven 1156 01:03:45,150 --> 01:03:43,270 hundred and eighty shows right there 1157 01:03:46,890 --> 01:03:45,160 archive for you for just two dollars a 1158 01:03:49,470 --> 01:03:46,900 month go to the podcast banner over at 1159 01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:49,480 Jimmy Turks radio.com our guest tonight 1160 01:03:54,050 --> 01:03:52,480 is James Redfield author of course of 1161 01:03:58,410 --> 01:03:54,060 the Celestine Prophecy 1162 01:04:02,400 --> 01:03:58,420 going all the way up to the 12th and and 1163 01:04:05,370 --> 01:04:02,410 the 12th before we get to that is the 1164 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:05,380 latest book but you you mentioned to me 1165 01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:08,290 can I can I can I mention what you 1166 01:04:23,099 --> 01:04:18,700 mentioned to me here we go yeah right 1167 01:04:25,530 --> 01:04:23,109 and I didn't I held back but there is 1168 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:25,540 going to be a rerelease of The Celestine 1169 01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:30,130 Prophecy with an extensive addendum it's 1170 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:35,920 already on the road and and where can 1171 01:04:42,090 --> 01:04:39,730 everybody go and find it well it's 1172 01:04:44,609 --> 01:04:42,100 interesting because you you'll have to 1173 01:04:48,780 --> 01:04:44,619 look around Amazon because we've had 1174 01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:48,790 several editions but find the one that's 1175 01:04:57,090 --> 01:04:52,240 the most recent edition it has a blue 1176 01:04:59,420 --> 01:04:57,100 cover so it'll stand out and it has an 1177 01:05:02,220 --> 01:04:59,430 afterword so it'll it'll let you know 1178 01:05:03,810 --> 01:05:02,230 that you know there's a steward 1179 01:05:07,230 --> 01:05:03,820 weightings and I've never done that 1180 01:05:09,630 --> 01:05:07,240 right I've never added a long afterward 1181 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:09,640 but I did on this edition because it's 1182 01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:13,210 you know I felt very strongly that with 1183 01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:16,240 Millennials coming online and their 1184 01:05:19,770 --> 01:05:18,609 children you know face in college a lot 1185 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:19,780 of them the older children of 1186 01:05:29,130 --> 01:05:23,890 Millennials you know it it it needed to 1187 01:05:31,710 --> 01:05:29,140 be put in perspective and and the book 1188 01:05:33,390 --> 01:05:31,720 of course is about waking up and that's 1189 01:05:39,289 --> 01:05:33,400 the that's really the title was 1190 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:41,849 you know I'm pretty blissful I have to 1191 01:05:49,319 --> 01:05:45,250 say I really think there's there's 1192 01:05:52,490 --> 01:05:49,329 ingredients to that bliss and you know 1193 01:05:56,700 --> 01:05:52,500 that in the the most important one is 1194 01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:56,710 meditating and and meditating in in a 1195 01:06:01,680 --> 01:05:59,440 way that you know mindfulness meditation 1196 01:06:02,759 --> 01:06:01,690 you can do a lot of different ways 1197 01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:02,769 you're just trying to calm the mind 1198 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:06,640 right you I believe we the most 1199 01:06:15,509 --> 01:06:10,450 effective meditation is one that where 1200 01:06:18,210 --> 01:06:15,519 you are seeking to heal the heart so you 1201 01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:18,220 don't you did same way but you you let 1202 01:06:26,910 --> 01:06:22,569 go of not just the the chatter in your 1203 01:06:33,059 --> 01:06:26,920 brain that's mental but the emotions 1204 01:06:36,990 --> 01:06:33,069 that erupt because you know you have to 1205 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:37,000 let those go and and and I I really 1206 01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:41,730 recommend a mantra where you really 1207 01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:45,359 you're repeating to occupy your your 1208 01:06:51,210 --> 01:06:49,200 your mind you just keep the chatter from 1209 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:51,220 allowing you to let go of the chatter 1210 01:07:00,539 --> 01:06:55,930 you intend to open your heart to a kind 1211 01:07:02,849 --> 01:07:00,549 of primary emotion and it's that's true 1212 01:07:10,259 --> 01:07:02,859 across all religious traditions all 1213 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:10,269 mystical adepts and the key to as you 1214 01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:12,730 say finding your bliss but also finding 1215 01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:14,529 the greatest creativity and your 1216 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:16,960 intuitive intelligence and all these 1217 01:07:23,339 --> 01:07:19,450 experiences that come with the spiritual 1218 01:07:28,589 --> 01:07:23,349 life the key is opening your heart to 1219 01:07:32,099 --> 01:07:28,599 Anna kind of state of love essentially 1220 01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:32,109 love and God as people argue with me 1221 01:07:37,289 --> 01:07:34,000 about this because they think love is 1222 01:07:39,059 --> 01:07:37,299 too syrupy and everybody talks about 1223 01:07:39,690 --> 01:07:39,069 love but they really don't show it and 1224 01:07:42,539 --> 01:07:39,700 all that 1225 01:07:46,319 --> 01:07:42,549 but there is a genuine kind of heart 1226 01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:46,329 open it happens and the what you get is 1227 01:07:52,410 --> 01:07:49,569 the kind of state of agape love and if 1228 01:07:54,750 --> 01:07:52,420 you intend that you 1229 01:07:57,450 --> 01:07:54,760 we'll get to that and that's that's our 1230 01:07:59,850 --> 01:07:57,460 primary emotion and if you practice that 1231 01:08:02,250 --> 01:07:59,860 long enough in the other emotions you 1232 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:02,260 know the lower emotions of anxiety and 1233 01:08:07,380 --> 01:08:04,570 hurt from things other people have done 1234 01:08:11,610 --> 01:08:07,390 and anger and all the things that knock 1235 01:08:18,510 --> 01:08:11,620 us off our path you know they can bounce 1236 01:08:21,690 --> 01:08:18,520 off this solid core in and that's that's 1237 01:08:23,250 --> 01:08:21,700 how you stay stable and I know there's a 1238 01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:23,260 lot of fear out there and anxiety and 1239 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:26,560 all the rest but I believe that this is 1240 01:08:31,620 --> 01:08:29,410 the fastest pathway into a kind of 1241 01:08:35,970 --> 01:08:31,630 spiritual solution can you get to that 1242 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:35,980 spiritual solution by accident right can 1243 01:08:42,540 --> 01:08:38,890 you stumble into it without even knowing 1244 01:08:45,750 --> 01:08:42,550 or practicing or or reading about it 1245 01:08:49,770 --> 01:08:45,760 yeah it's pure it's curved it's just a 1246 01:08:53,340 --> 01:08:49,780 gift from your soul you know I mean you 1247 01:08:55,860 --> 01:08:53,350 know the peak experiences are you know 1248 01:08:58,710 --> 01:08:55,870 the research on peak experiences you 1249 01:09:02,120 --> 01:08:58,720 know if you research that you'll get the 1250 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:02,130 phone book because all these spontaneous 1251 01:09:09,900 --> 01:09:08,290 spiritual experiences happen 1252 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:09,910 spontaneously all over the place just 1253 01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:12,970 sunset can do it birth of your child can 1254 01:09:24,090 --> 01:09:19,600 do it right a a just a helping hand from 1255 01:09:26,850 --> 01:09:24,100 a stranger sometimes does it but it's 1256 01:09:30,060 --> 01:09:26,860 sort of across the board opening in 1257 01:09:32,010 --> 01:09:30,070 other words and it's my you know my 1258 01:09:36,030 --> 01:09:32,020 message right now is that hey we're 1259 01:09:38,970 --> 01:09:36,040 wired for this and if consciousness as 1260 01:09:41,790 --> 01:09:38,980 consciousness accelerates and that's 1261 01:09:45,210 --> 01:09:41,800 what's happening in my view it's easier 1262 01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:45,220 every day to do this it's easier to 1263 01:09:51,900 --> 01:09:49,990 meditate then it was before there was so 1264 01:09:53,580 --> 01:09:51,910 much meditation happening 1265 01:09:56,670 --> 01:09:53,590 remember it's the group mind right and 1266 01:09:58,770 --> 01:09:56,680 and so all this meditation for every 1267 01:10:03,150 --> 01:09:58,780 point of view has happened over the last 1268 01:10:06,299 --> 01:10:03,160 15 20 years is elevating general 1269 01:10:09,959 --> 01:10:06,309 consciousness so we we can get into the 1270 01:10:12,419 --> 01:10:09,969 this consciousness easier now I know it 1271 01:10:15,839 --> 01:10:12,429 used to be hard to meditate but it's 1272 01:10:19,379 --> 01:10:15,849 easier now it's hard used to be very 1273 01:10:23,010 --> 01:10:19,389 hard to have a flow of synchronicity 1274 01:10:28,109 --> 01:10:23,020 that kind of opens doors you know just 1275 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:28,119 just unbelievably for yourself but 1276 01:10:36,779 --> 01:10:31,090 there's you know there's there's you 1277 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:36,789 know the key there keep changes we have 1278 01:10:42,299 --> 01:10:38,770 to make in our reaction pattern and and 1279 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:42,309 and and how we live in order to really 1280 01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:45,130 manifest that on a long-term basis and I 1281 01:10:51,299 --> 01:10:47,110 think karma getting our karma straight 1282 01:10:55,589 --> 01:10:51,309 is the most important part once somebody 1283 01:10:57,390 --> 01:10:55,599 gets behind the ball James and it's it's 1284 01:11:01,020 --> 01:10:57,400 hard to catch up they've messed up their 1285 01:11:03,299 --> 01:11:01,030 karma now they're upset and because 1286 01:11:05,459 --> 01:11:03,309 they're not achieving the things in life 1287 01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:05,469 that they thought and and and now 1288 01:11:10,260 --> 01:11:08,320 they're getting a negative or about them 1289 01:11:12,180 --> 01:11:10,270 and they're speaking in a negative 1290 01:11:16,620 --> 01:11:12,190 they're thinking negative thoughts and 1291 01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:16,630 and and they're behind the ball right 1292 01:11:24,750 --> 01:11:19,920 and then they wonder why do I physically 1293 01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:24,760 gifts of life come to you once you start 1294 01:11:32,430 --> 01:11:28,420 to achieve not only a spirituality but a 1295 01:11:35,370 --> 01:11:32,440 niceness right when you are kind then 1296 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:35,380 you get those gifts and they may even be 1297 01:11:43,049 --> 01:11:39,130 material things that come your way or a 1298 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:43,059 better job or those things because you 1299 01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:45,250 are a kinder nicer person to those 1300 01:11:51,839 --> 01:11:47,980 around you and you are seeking knowledge 1301 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:51,849 right am I am I saying that correctly no 1302 01:11:58,379 --> 01:11:55,449 karma karma in this dimension 1303 01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:58,389 I believe anybody can prove this to 1304 01:12:03,450 --> 01:11:59,920 themselves I believe I think it's a 1305 01:12:06,299 --> 01:12:03,460 consensus now from the people who study 1306 01:12:09,029 --> 01:12:06,309 karma and Karma's that studied friends 1307 01:12:14,189 --> 01:12:09,039 right and the consensus I believe is 1308 01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:14,199 that it's all around helping other 1309 01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:17,440 people that's right hey and and and 1310 01:12:24,919 --> 01:12:20,110 again and that's it sounds a little bit 1311 01:12:27,810 --> 01:12:24,929 Sunday school but it's it's about 1312 01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:27,820 opening up and into meditation you do 1313 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:29,440 this you open up to your intuitive 1314 01:12:38,370 --> 01:12:35,770 intelligence so it will come to you how 1315 01:12:41,129 --> 01:12:38,380 you can help somebody so you don't have 1316 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:41,139 to say okay I'm gonna shake this guy 1317 01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:43,449 until they confess to me and I'm going 1318 01:12:53,790 --> 01:12:51,670 to help you you are you know had all 1319 01:12:58,290 --> 01:12:53,800 your conversations every day every week 1320 01:13:02,220 --> 01:12:58,300 every year you know you'll get once you 1321 01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:02,230 start seeking this you'll get intuitions 1322 01:13:08,430 --> 01:13:05,710 about how you can be a service to a 1323 01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:08,440 person and again don't even think it 1324 01:13:12,990 --> 01:13:10,480 like that think it think about how you 1325 01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:13,000 can be a synchronicity how you can say 1326 01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:16,000 just the thing to that person that 1327 01:13:20,700 --> 01:13:18,310 that's exactly what they need to hear at 1328 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:20,710 that moment right we always want 1329 01:13:25,229 --> 01:13:22,690 synchronicities other people to give us 1330 01:13:27,959 --> 01:13:25,239 those but until we do it at least half 1331 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:27,969 time where you know when you're meeting 1332 01:13:33,660 --> 01:13:31,330 strangers or just running into people 1333 01:13:37,260 --> 01:13:33,670 you know if you you have to train 1334 01:13:39,060 --> 01:13:37,270 yourself to ask yet okay you know what 1335 01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:39,070 am i sensing about this person how could 1336 01:13:43,379 --> 01:13:41,199 I help them and then what will come to 1337 01:13:46,189 --> 01:13:43,389 you is to share something that it's 1338 01:13:49,740 --> 01:13:46,199 helped yourself in your life journey and 1339 01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:49,750 you you board it out you find a way to 1340 01:13:55,109 --> 01:13:50,560 blurt it out 1341 01:13:57,180 --> 01:13:55,119 and so often what you get back is you 1342 01:13:59,280 --> 01:13:57,190 know that's exactly what I needed to 1343 01:14:01,050 --> 01:13:59,290 hear right now you know that really kind 1344 01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:01,060 of lifts my spirits I really appreciate 1345 01:14:06,169 --> 01:14:03,760 you know that's what the that's what the 1346 01:14:08,490 --> 01:14:06,179 world is designed for us all to do 1347 01:14:11,250 --> 01:14:08,500 everybody was doing man just half time 1348 01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:11,260 you know look for the messages and other 1349 01:14:17,370 --> 01:14:14,800 that other people have but also look 1350 01:14:21,209 --> 01:14:17,380 look in your heart for what you know how 1351 01:14:23,310 --> 01:14:21,219 could I be of help so it's the Karma is 1352 01:14:28,580 --> 01:14:23,320 all around giving if you're a giver 1353 01:14:31,530 --> 01:14:28,590 right what happens is that more people 1354 01:14:34,290 --> 01:14:31,540 you draw more people in your life there 1355 01:14:36,500 --> 01:14:34,300 are also givers right 1356 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:36,510 reinforces the whole thing is designed 1357 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:40,810 to reinforce this way of life and it's 1358 01:14:46,820 --> 01:14:43,570 emerging right it's emerging that but if 1359 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:46,830 you're a taker if you're if you think 1360 01:14:53,010 --> 01:14:51,130 first about how you can you know maybe 1361 01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:53,020 manipulate this person and take 1362 01:15:00,210 --> 01:14:56,950 advantage take advantage in any way or 1363 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:00,220 mislead them you know in in some way 1364 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:02,890 that makes you yourself sound smarter or 1365 01:15:08,220 --> 01:15:04,810 whatever your whatever the game is if 1366 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:08,230 you're not being authentically giving 1367 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:11,530 then you're taking and a taker draws 1368 01:15:17,310 --> 01:15:14,650 other takers into their lives I mean you 1369 01:15:19,260 --> 01:15:17,320 can see it happen everywhere you know if 1370 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:19,270 you're a taker what comes around goes 1371 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:21,730 around you got to get hit by another 1372 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:25,210 taker who takes advantage of you slows 1373 01:15:31,290 --> 01:15:28,210 your synchronicity down makes you throws 1374 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:31,300 you into emotional turmoil and it's not 1375 01:15:36,450 --> 01:15:34,210 for punishment is to show you how 1376 01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:36,460 harmful what you're doing is to other 1377 01:15:41,490 --> 01:15:39,280 people right now right now I'm taking 1378 01:15:46,020 --> 01:15:41,500 from you and you're making me look 1379 01:15:51,780 --> 01:15:46,030 smarter so there you go and here here's 1380 01:15:54,180 --> 01:15:51,790 the point I am NOT a saint right I am 1381 01:15:57,450 --> 01:15:54,190 NOT I've got my faults James and I'm 1382 01:16:00,150 --> 01:15:57,460 trying everyday you know I'm fighting 1383 01:16:05,970 --> 01:16:00,160 you know to to make those little baby 1384 01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:05,980 steps of improving myself but I I find 1385 01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:06,910 myself 1386 01:16:13,470 --> 01:16:11,170 naturally just doing things and I 1387 01:16:17,820 --> 01:16:13,480 mentioned these from time to time on the 1388 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:17,830 air to suggest to others to try to do 1389 01:16:22,350 --> 01:16:20,290 the same thing if you can because you 1390 01:16:26,580 --> 01:16:22,360 just said it if we did it if we met 1391 01:16:29,070 --> 01:16:26,590 halfway and this planet actually did can 1392 01:16:33,060 --> 01:16:29,080 you imagine it would be we would rotate 1393 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:33,070 on our axis this planet which shift it 1394 01:16:39,870 --> 01:16:36,010 would it would be momentous it really 1395 01:16:43,380 --> 01:16:39,880 went again to a design that that 1396 01:16:47,909 --> 01:16:43,390 welcomes this shift because you know it 1397 01:16:51,869 --> 01:16:47,919 just it just it just magnifies your life 1398 01:16:53,819 --> 01:16:51,879 another thing is is giving money again I 1399 01:16:57,869 --> 01:16:53,829 give it all the time you know what I 1400 01:17:01,099 --> 01:16:57,879 searched I searched head yeah well I was 1401 01:17:03,449 --> 01:17:01,109 going to say it was right before 1402 01:17:07,319 --> 01:17:03,459 Christmas this year 1403 01:17:08,819 --> 01:17:07,329 and I'm in line at the store and this 1404 01:17:14,489 --> 01:17:08,829 lady in front of me 1405 01:17:16,319 --> 01:17:14,499 is buying this tiny little wreath you 1406 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:16,329 know it's it's it's tiny it's maybe a 1407 01:17:24,089 --> 01:17:21,090 foot a small wreath and and the guy 1408 01:17:27,959 --> 01:17:24,099 whatever she said how much is this this 1409 01:17:32,939 --> 01:17:27,969 was all she was buying James and and he 1410 01:17:35,549 --> 01:17:32,949 said it's 1995 she goes oh oh I don't 1411 01:17:38,669 --> 01:17:35,559 have enough money I needed this for my 1412 01:17:40,679 --> 01:17:38,679 daughter I'm going over to her house for 1413 01:17:46,379 --> 01:17:40,689 dinner and I wanted to give this to her 1414 01:17:49,649 --> 01:17:46,389 and I was like ma'am take it but she 1415 01:17:52,529 --> 01:17:49,659 said what I said just take the wreath 1416 01:17:53,149 --> 01:17:52,539 and go to your daughter's house for 1417 01:17:59,159 --> 01:17:53,159 dinner 1418 01:18:00,839 --> 01:17:59,169 because I don't understand I said ma'am 1419 01:18:05,459 --> 01:18:00,849 Merry Christmas 1420 01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:05,469 just take the wreath and and she said 1421 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:07,209 thank you and she walks out of the store 1422 01:18:15,599 --> 01:18:11,050 I paid for it but behind me the 20 1423 01:18:18,629 --> 01:18:15,609 people in line applauded and the point 1424 01:18:22,679 --> 01:18:18,639 to this it's not the $20 it's certainly 1425 01:18:24,270 --> 01:18:22,689 not that but it was now she is going to 1426 01:18:28,799 --> 01:18:24,280 her daughter's house 1427 01:18:32,459 --> 01:18:28,809 with a gift right that little that 1428 01:18:35,339 --> 01:18:32,469 little thing and it's nothing right it's 1429 01:18:38,250 --> 01:18:35,349 nothing but that that is what you need 1430 01:18:41,459 --> 01:18:38,260 to do at that moment for most at that 1431 01:18:44,810 --> 01:18:41,469 moment standing behind her you let her 1432 01:18:47,279 --> 01:18:44,820 walk away and and that's not right 1433 01:18:51,449 --> 01:18:47,289 that's not what this world is about is 1434 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:51,459 it well it yeah you're missing an 1435 01:18:54,899 --> 01:18:53,050 opportunity here you're yeah 1436 01:18:57,330 --> 01:18:54,909 synchronicity if that synchronicities 1437 01:18:59,459 --> 01:18:57,340 real where all this all this gets 1438 01:19:00,960 --> 01:18:59,469 coordinated if you step into the flow of 1439 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:00,970 it 1440 01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:03,850 then you're not you know cut off your 1441 01:19:09,810 --> 01:19:07,840 own flow if you don't respond now you 1442 01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:09,820 know the church is always going to say 1443 01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:12,910 the churches churches always has you 1444 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:19,600 know the kind of a you know the just the 1445 01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:22,690 corner on all the sides right and send 1446 01:19:26,490 --> 01:19:24,520 it to this send it to the church okay 1447 01:19:29,580 --> 01:19:26,500 and but I believe that you know it's a 1448 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:29,590 universal principle and what what we 1449 01:19:34,260 --> 01:19:32,530 what really helps you know and this you 1450 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:34,270 know it's part of the transformation of 1451 01:19:39,930 --> 01:19:36,850 anyone's life and it helps if you're 1452 01:19:42,150 --> 01:19:39,940 helping you know in people ten percent 1453 01:19:47,010 --> 01:19:42,160 right that's that's a lot that's a trip 1454 01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:47,020 you know for people but what what I 1455 01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:49,690 believe that we can do is just start 1456 01:19:53,970 --> 01:19:52,000 small one percent because there's 1457 01:19:56,220 --> 01:19:53,980 something magical that happens because 1458 01:19:59,190 --> 01:19:56,230 you got you know you got this money in 1459 01:20:03,240 --> 01:19:59,200 your hand okay I'm gonna give this much 1460 01:20:06,090 --> 01:20:03,250 away and and put it in your pocket and 1461 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:06,100 you just wait because what will happen 1462 01:20:13,140 --> 01:20:10,090 is that a synchronicity will occur where 1463 01:20:15,630 --> 01:20:13,150 you will have a you know your intuitive 1464 01:20:16,710 --> 01:20:15,640 intelligence will will come in and 1465 01:20:20,010 --> 01:20:16,720 you'll get a hunch 1466 01:20:23,580 --> 01:20:20,020 of where what to do with that money 1467 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:23,590 and it's yeah I've had people now have 1468 01:20:29,730 --> 01:20:26,610 had bunny you know and you know 1469 01:20:32,850 --> 01:20:29,740 wondering where I'm gonna be led to give 1470 01:20:36,090 --> 01:20:32,860 it and I've had people drive up you know 1471 01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:36,100 in a big you know old junker the smoking 1472 01:20:42,510 --> 01:20:39,640 and rattling and and come pull up right 1473 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:42,520 in front of me and then blow up you know 1474 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:45,610 right in front of em hmm you know person 1475 01:20:49,110 --> 01:20:47,770 gets out you know and they're you know 1476 01:20:52,140 --> 01:20:49,120 they don't know what they're going to do 1477 01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:52,150 with the car and how to get it you know 1478 01:20:58,110 --> 01:20:55,210 and I say okay that's clear enough what 1479 01:21:00,240 --> 01:20:58,120 right I'm supposed to help with that so 1480 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:00,250 it doesn't have to be anything big it 1481 01:21:03,470 --> 01:21:01,810 just has you have to be there at the 1482 01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:03,480 right time nothing is more satisfying 1483 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:09,520 and nothing is more evidential that this 1484 01:21:13,980 --> 01:21:11,410 world you know we're in a spiritual 1485 01:21:14,340 --> 01:21:13,990 world it has a design around giving and 1486 01:21:17,550 --> 01:21:14,350 the more 1487 01:21:19,470 --> 01:21:17,560 you give more you're given to and you 1488 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:19,480 just have to prove that to yourself you 1489 01:21:23,190 --> 01:21:19,810 know 1490 01:21:25,860 --> 01:21:23,200 oh you send cynical cynics out there you 1491 01:21:29,070 --> 01:21:25,870 know just just think about it you know 1492 01:21:31,140 --> 01:21:29,080 it's not anybody you know it's not it's 1493 01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,150 part of the spiritual universe that 1494 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:33,760 you're participating in and it always 1495 01:21:39,210 --> 01:21:34,770 comes back to you 1496 01:21:44,850 --> 01:21:39,220 and there's another part of this that no 1497 01:21:48,990 --> 01:21:44,860 matter how rough life gets for you and 1498 01:21:51,930 --> 01:21:49,000 your family no matter how how bad it 1499 01:21:56,250 --> 01:21:51,940 gets there's a somebody else out there 1500 01:21:58,740 --> 01:21:56,260 that is really in a bad spot no matter 1501 01:22:02,430 --> 01:21:58,750 what and you just think it can't get any 1502 01:22:04,350 --> 01:22:02,440 worse well yes it can and and there's 1503 01:22:08,300 --> 01:22:04,360 somebody out there that is looking at 1504 01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:08,310 you in your rough spot and is saying 1505 01:22:14,850 --> 01:22:12,310 they have it all right and it could be 1506 01:22:17,790 --> 01:22:14,860 for so many different reasons and that's 1507 01:22:20,370 --> 01:22:17,800 why you should always look at everybody 1508 01:22:23,310 --> 01:22:20,380 as being equal and and I really try to 1509 01:22:26,610 --> 01:22:23,320 live my life that way and I know it 1510 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:26,620 sounds like some shambhala oh that's one 1511 01:22:36,030 --> 01:22:33,370 of your books but and and how do we 1512 01:22:39,140 --> 01:22:36,040 start to we'll uh we'll talk about this 1513 01:22:41,940 --> 01:22:39,150 after the break but but how do we 1514 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:41,950 initiate these changes in ourselves I 1515 01:22:48,810 --> 01:22:44,410 mean what's the best the simplest way to 1516 01:22:51,390 --> 01:22:48,820 to make these steps forward put a note 1517 01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:51,400 on your bathroom window a mirror excuse 1518 01:22:56,790 --> 01:22:52,800 me mirror 1519 01:22:58,260 --> 01:22:56,800 and what does that note say whatever 1520 01:23:00,360 --> 01:22:58,270 you're trying to remind yourself of 1521 01:23:02,670 --> 01:23:00,370 first time in the first thing in the 1522 01:23:04,170 --> 01:23:02,680 morning and and I really think the best 1523 01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:04,180 way to do it is to get started right 1524 01:23:12,030 --> 01:23:08,560 every day so that you you know what 1525 01:23:15,900 --> 01:23:12,040 you're working on and you you begin to 1526 01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:15,910 change your reaction patterns meditation 1527 01:23:24,540 --> 01:23:18,840 of course again is at the heart of it 1528 01:23:27,729 --> 01:23:24,550 and mmin to the break what I find 1529 01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:27,739 interesting about that 1530 01:23:34,060 --> 01:23:32,000 is it's a gradual so many one instant 1531 01:23:35,950 --> 01:23:34,070 gratification right they want to buy the 1532 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:35,960 Celestine Prophecy tomorrow they're a 1533 01:23:41,860 --> 01:23:38,810 brand new person unfortunately doesn't 1534 01:23:45,970 --> 01:23:41,870 work that way does it but after six 1535 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:45,980 months or a year you can then look back 1536 01:23:50,890 --> 01:23:49,010 at where you were six months prior or a 1537 01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:50,900 year prior and go hey Wow 1538 01:23:57,729 --> 01:23:54,560 okay I have changed and that's how it 1539 01:23:59,080 --> 01:23:57,739 happens isn't it yeah you know you're 1540 01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:59,090 working on Hill in your heart and then 1541 01:24:05,709 --> 01:24:00,880 you're working on changing your 1542 01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:05,719 reactions first thing in the morning it 1543 01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:09,110 takes a planning in my view the critical 1544 01:24:15,490 --> 01:24:12,800 thing is to wake up in the morning and 1545 01:24:18,459 --> 01:24:15,500 really wake up you know where am I in my 1546 01:24:20,380 --> 01:24:18,469 life yeah I know the kids are downstairs 1547 01:24:23,890 --> 01:24:20,390 and you know they're gonna start 1548 01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:23,900 screaming any moment but where am I in 1549 01:24:33,220 --> 01:24:27,110 my life what are my questions what 1550 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:33,230 problem do I want to I want to solve 1551 01:24:39,220 --> 01:24:37,610 first and then you use intention and you 1552 01:24:41,410 --> 01:24:39,230 know that's a longer conversation but 1553 01:24:46,150 --> 01:24:41,420 intention goes up when consciousness 1554 01:24:48,430 --> 01:24:46,160 goes up and it's amazing how well it 1555 01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:48,440 works at this point let's take a break 1556 01:24:52,930 --> 01:24:51,110 right here and we'll continue this 1557 01:24:57,070 --> 01:24:52,940 conversation when we come back our guest 1558 01:24:58,420 --> 01:24:57,080 tonight James Redfield so happy I'm so 1559 01:25:01,030 --> 01:24:58,430 happy right now 1560 01:25:03,820 --> 01:25:01,040 I'm euros to be church this is fade to 1561 01:25:05,820 --> 01:25:03,830 black on the GameChanger network and kg 1562 01:25:08,390 --> 01:25:05,830 ra the planet morph chain 1563 01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:08,400 after this short break stay with us 1564 01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:21,280 [Music] 1565 01:25:25,630 --> 01:25:23,840 welcome back fade to black on the earth 1566 01:25:29,010 --> 01:25:25,640 Jimmy Church I want to remind everybody 1567 01:25:33,670 --> 01:25:29,020 we're heading over to the United Kingdom 1568 01:25:35,290 --> 01:25:33,680 June 26th and 27th 2020 we will be over 1569 01:25:38,440 --> 01:25:35,300 at the awakening conference I'll be 1570 01:25:40,570 --> 01:25:38,450 hosting and you can go to awakening UFO 1571 01:25:42,250 --> 01:25:40,580 calm for tickets and information but 1572 01:25:44,710 --> 01:25:42,260 it's gonna be great to finally head over 1573 01:25:45,490 --> 01:25:44,720 to Europe and meet all of you it's gonna 1574 01:25:49,930 --> 01:25:45,500 be wonderful 1575 01:25:54,210 --> 01:25:49,940 and James okay let's let's let's get to 1576 01:25:58,090 --> 01:25:54,220 some specifics here fear of fear and 1577 01:26:00,670 --> 01:25:58,100 fear has always it's going back 1578 01:26:05,470 --> 01:26:00,680 thousands of years it's been used to 1579 01:26:08,740 --> 01:26:05,480 control and it's it's it's just part of 1580 01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:08,750 the system today and combined with that 1581 01:26:15,580 --> 01:26:12,530 more so than ever we have the media and 1582 01:26:19,230 --> 01:26:15,590 social media but everything today 1583 01:26:22,060 --> 01:26:19,240 absolutely everything is fear driven and 1584 01:26:25,650 --> 01:26:22,070 which affects our emotions and our 1585 01:26:30,610 --> 01:26:25,660 consciousness and the man knows this 1586 01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:30,620 they know this and it affects us how do 1587 01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:35,210 you do you watch television do you know 1588 01:26:47,140 --> 01:26:42,800 how do you avoid this very very tangible 1589 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:47,150 effort to control us with fear you know 1590 01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:53,090 I I tune into the highlights of the 1591 01:26:58,800 --> 01:26:56,290 propaganda that some television and 1592 01:27:01,600 --> 01:26:58,810 because I just want to know the 1593 01:27:05,290 --> 01:27:01,610 sociology of what's going on 1594 01:27:13,930 --> 01:27:05,300 but I don't you know you you you can't 1595 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:13,940 let that vibe in because it is did you 1596 01:27:23,530 --> 01:27:17,090 hear something yes yeah I did on your 1597 01:27:25,420 --> 01:27:23,540 end yeah not sure what's going on yeah 1598 01:27:27,610 --> 01:27:25,430 maybe in my line but it's good let's go 1599 01:27:31,300 --> 01:27:27,620 if if I drop off for some reason I've 1600 01:27:32,590 --> 01:27:31,310 been hearing like lightning strikes I 1601 01:27:35,140 --> 01:27:32,600 don't know if you heard any of those 1602 01:27:39,390 --> 01:27:35,150 right hey y'all we 1603 01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:39,400 getting some weirdness on the phone so 1604 01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:42,650 if if I drop off for any reason will you 1605 01:27:50,169 --> 01:27:44,560 just call me on my cell and we'll finish 1606 01:27:54,070 --> 01:27:50,179 absolutely okay so fear you know it's 1607 01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:54,080 you know it's it's it's as you say it's 1608 01:28:01,090 --> 01:27:59,360 a control mechanism but you know yeah 1609 01:28:07,050 --> 01:28:01,100 it's going on there all right yeah 1610 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:07,060 it's continue we still got you okay oh 1611 01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:10,130 you know the point who is meditation 1612 01:28:14,620 --> 01:28:12,530 insecure you know because it's it's 1613 01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:14,630 everybody gets knocked in the sphere 1614 01:28:20,620 --> 01:28:17,120 you know it's an existential world you 1615 01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:20,630 know people have challenges how thin you 1616 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:24,320 can get back into that love base of 1617 01:28:29,290 --> 01:28:27,530 connection and in spiritually connection 1618 01:28:32,890 --> 01:28:29,300 you know the Mystics of every religion 1619 01:28:40,959 --> 01:28:32,900 talk about a peace that surpasses all 1620 01:28:45,250 --> 01:28:40,969 understanding and that is a a something 1621 01:28:48,459 --> 01:28:45,260 that you tune into you download and it 1622 01:28:52,689 --> 01:28:48,469 comes with meditating on the tippity or 1623 01:28:54,610 --> 01:28:52,699 key emotion and that's love and and 1624 01:28:56,860 --> 01:28:54,620 building that stronger and stronger so 1625 01:29:00,430 --> 01:28:56,870 you can get back you know and and the 1626 01:29:03,970 --> 01:29:00,440 fear ceases to be debilitating because 1627 01:29:06,189 --> 01:29:03,980 if you if you're fighting fear with some 1628 01:29:12,090 --> 01:29:06,199 kind of coping device whether it's drugs 1629 01:29:18,310 --> 01:29:12,100 or lifestyle or whatever your choice is 1630 01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:18,320 it never erases the anxiety very long so 1631 01:29:22,930 --> 01:29:19,250 it comes back 1632 01:29:27,250 --> 01:29:22,940 angers another you know angers a way of 1633 01:29:30,490 --> 01:29:27,260 fighting fear so but it's just this bad 1634 01:29:33,370 --> 01:29:30,500 you know so you're gonna have emotional 1635 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:33,380 eruptions until you you find your peace 1636 01:29:42,910 --> 01:29:36,770 and that is a you know that it happens 1637 01:29:47,819 --> 01:29:42,920 over time snip oh there you go we lost 1638 01:29:52,679 --> 01:29:47,829 James and we heard this coming on so I 1639 01:29:57,869 --> 01:29:52,689 I am going to I have a choice here let 1640 01:29:59,969 --> 01:29:57,879 me okay all right let me figure this out 1641 01:30:04,560 --> 01:29:59,979 I'm gonna do this live on the air this 1642 01:30:11,339 --> 01:30:04,570 is how I am going to do this so just 1643 01:30:20,279 --> 01:30:11,349 stay with me everybody and and I will do 1644 01:30:22,079 --> 01:30:20,289 this oh man yeah it was building up to 1645 01:30:28,429 --> 01:30:22,089 that wasn't it 1646 01:30:32,759 --> 01:30:28,439 and let's see here I think I may have 1647 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:32,769 James back but we have our ways of doing 1648 01:30:40,679 --> 01:30:35,530 this but it was it was building up to 1649 01:30:42,179 --> 01:30:40,689 that point and let's see how quick we 1650 01:30:44,750 --> 01:30:42,189 are on the draw this is going to be 1651 01:30:48,060 --> 01:30:44,760 there's going to be a lot of fun and 1652 01:30:50,689 --> 01:30:48,070 it's just like anything else with this 1653 01:30:54,810 --> 01:30:50,699 program when things like this happen 1654 01:30:56,369 --> 01:30:54,820 James are you there and I am yeah only 1655 01:30:59,099 --> 01:30:56,379 enough it must have been a little it 1656 01:31:03,389 --> 01:30:59,109 must be a landline problem it's so funny 1657 01:31:06,149 --> 01:31:03,399 that James when you are ready to 1658 01:31:15,149 --> 01:31:06,159 confront the man the interference comes 1659 01:31:17,250 --> 01:31:15,159 in man that was interesting I was 1660 01:31:19,319 --> 01:31:17,260 watching Twitter you know the comments 1661 01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:19,329 from everybody okay any second it's 1662 01:31:25,919 --> 01:31:22,449 gonna drop and here he goes James is 1663 01:31:29,099 --> 01:31:25,929 going there James is going there but but 1664 01:31:31,799 --> 01:31:29,109 it's wrong back but it's really true if 1665 01:31:35,279 --> 01:31:31,809 you go back and certainly with the basis 1666 01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:35,289 of of religion and you know you go back 1667 01:31:44,239 --> 01:31:39,760 a few thousand years the only way to 1668 01:31:49,219 --> 01:31:44,249 control was by saying you know God said 1669 01:31:53,069 --> 01:31:49,229 right you know get that fear going and 1670 01:31:56,369 --> 01:31:53,079 that that modality that method of 1671 01:31:58,709 --> 01:31:56,379 operation has been instilled with 1672 01:31:59,640 --> 01:31:58,719 leaders ever since and they don't really 1673 01:32:04,050 --> 01:31:59,650 have another way 1674 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:04,060 around it in their minds eye that's 1675 01:32:08,370 --> 01:32:06,010 right I mean they're they're operating 1676 01:32:10,649 --> 01:32:08,380 out of fear you know from their point of 1677 01:32:13,260 --> 01:32:10,659 view and listen bait you know you know 1678 01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:13,270 they invent crises right because out of 1679 01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:16,690 a crisis people get fearful and they're 1680 01:32:25,669 --> 01:32:20,850 willing to you know let let some huge 1681 01:32:29,700 --> 01:32:25,679 entity discover mind if it's corporate 1682 01:32:32,189 --> 01:32:29,710 you know manipulation whatever it is it 1683 01:32:34,350 --> 01:32:32,199 you know take over you know you you you 1684 01:32:36,890 --> 01:32:34,360 sort of let it slide because you're 1685 01:32:40,380 --> 01:32:36,900 fearful and they're generating the fear 1686 01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:40,390 so you know the best again the best way 1687 01:32:48,209 --> 01:32:43,690 is that is the fight for your free 1688 01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:48,219 expression and and and I want to say 1689 01:32:58,010 --> 01:32:51,250 fight that's a metaphor just hold hold 1690 01:33:04,590 --> 01:33:02,189 to that be surpassed by consciousness 1691 01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:04,600 and that's the only way to fix it 1692 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:06,610 because the more desperate they get the 1693 01:33:11,250 --> 01:33:09,250 more controlling me to get and so 1694 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:11,260 everybody knows that you know you see it 1695 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:16,330 at every level and you know war you know 1696 01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:19,770 I mean it's my view that the older 1697 01:33:26,780 --> 01:33:23,110 you've got some CIA driven programming 1698 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:26,790 going on now about UFOs and it's not 1699 01:33:34,050 --> 01:33:29,890 it's not you're seeking the truth about 1700 01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:34,060 this phenomenon it's creating fear you 1701 01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:36,370 know these UFOs are dangerous you know 1702 01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:39,040 that you could just see that movement 1703 01:33:43,500 --> 01:33:42,370 creeping in so the next scare is what a 1704 01:33:46,340 --> 01:33:43,510 war with UFOs 1705 01:33:49,830 --> 01:33:46,350 you know that does that what a contra 1706 01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:49,840 who knows well you can see the writing 1707 01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:53,050 on the wall with that I mean is just 1708 01:33:59,310 --> 01:33:57,850 right in front of us when I didn't think 1709 01:34:01,890 --> 01:33:59,320 that we would go into the UFO 1710 01:34:05,310 --> 01:34:01,900 conversation but but I did find it 1711 01:34:10,110 --> 01:34:05,320 interesting about a couple of years ago 1712 01:34:13,050 --> 01:34:10,120 when UFO suddenly were mainstream and it 1713 01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:13,060 was everywhere CNN Fox bit you know 1714 01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:18,400 BBC Sky News RT and it continues through 1715 01:34:24,930 --> 01:34:22,810 today but once it started I thought to 1716 01:34:27,570 --> 01:34:24,940 myself and I had this conversation on 1717 01:34:31,350 --> 01:34:27,580 the air a lot how long is it gonna take 1718 01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:31,360 before fear is part of this conversation 1719 01:34:35,970 --> 01:34:33,310 now it's not the phenomenon if we are 1720 01:34:37,260 --> 01:34:35,980 alone in the universe it's there's going 1721 01:34:41,550 --> 01:34:37,270 to be the fear-based 1722 01:34:44,820 --> 01:34:41,560 aspect of this and sure enough that is 1723 01:34:46,980 --> 01:34:44,830 the secondary message now soon to be 1724 01:34:49,110 --> 01:34:46,990 elevated front and center I couldn't 1725 01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:49,120 agree with you more I think that is 1726 01:34:57,780 --> 01:34:52,570 inevitable yep and we just have to 1727 01:35:00,860 --> 01:34:57,790 resist that because the story of UFOs is 1728 01:35:06,090 --> 01:35:00,870 going to turn out to be much more 1729 01:35:07,890 --> 01:35:06,100 diverse than that so you know and we can 1730 01:35:10,230 --> 01:35:07,900 we're all doing our own research right 1731 01:35:13,380 --> 01:35:10,240 now the trucks figure that out and and 1732 01:35:17,340 --> 01:35:13,390 and and going back to I wanted to ask 1733 01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:17,350 you this earlier in when we are talking 1734 01:35:24,090 --> 01:35:22,090 about consciousness there are two ways 1735 01:35:28,140 --> 01:35:24,100 to actually look at it but certainly the 1736 01:35:29,790 --> 01:35:28,150 first one is this if you have a rock in 1737 01:35:32,940 --> 01:35:29,800 your hand and you're looking at that 1738 01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:32,950 rock it's made of the same atoms that 1739 01:35:40,170 --> 01:35:36,400 your body is but there there are no 1740 01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:40,180 other different atoms it's the same 1741 01:35:47,730 --> 01:35:44,710 atoms but I am able to ask James 1742 01:35:53,580 --> 01:35:47,740 Redfield questions and laugh or have 1743 01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:53,590 humor or insight the rock cannot where 1744 01:36:01,650 --> 01:35:57,810 does the transition happen you know from 1745 01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:01,660 the assembly of atoms to suddenly the 1746 01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:04,000 Assembly of consciousness and if it 1747 01:36:10,230 --> 01:36:07,840 exists that way it has to be everywhere 1748 01:36:14,790 --> 01:36:10,240 in the universe because atoms are the 1749 01:36:18,150 --> 01:36:14,800 same in any galaxy as they are here in 1750 01:36:21,300 --> 01:36:18,160 our Milky Way right right right 1751 01:36:26,940 --> 01:36:21,310 well I think that you know the key to me 1752 01:36:31,980 --> 01:36:26,950 is to think of consciousness as as 1753 01:36:34,230 --> 01:36:31,990 was in okay and the rock at some level 1754 01:36:37,650 --> 01:36:34,240 is part of our extended body right 1755 01:36:41,790 --> 01:36:37,660 because you know we can't we were we 1756 01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:41,800 were burst on planet earth and the rocks 1757 01:36:49,170 --> 01:36:44,320 come first and what makes us think they 1758 01:36:51,930 --> 01:36:49,180 don't have consciousness right so we're 1759 01:36:54,060 --> 01:36:51,940 still open called facts and that's 1760 01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:54,070 another that's different from feeling 1761 01:37:02,280 --> 01:36:56,110 the consciousness the consciousness is 1762 01:37:04,860 --> 01:37:02,290 an experience of opening the mind and I 1763 01:37:07,620 --> 01:37:04,870 believe that the real the real 1764 01:37:10,260 --> 01:37:07,630 experience is it's about opening our 1765 01:37:13,230 --> 01:37:10,270 larger month in other words we just 1766 01:37:16,100 --> 01:37:13,240 we're you know if we're just an ego and 1767 01:37:18,780 --> 01:37:16,110 trying to share out everything and 1768 01:37:21,390 --> 01:37:18,790 without the words that we put in our 1769 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:21,400 head that's one thing that's our that's 1770 01:37:26,820 --> 01:37:24,250 a goddamn ego matter you know we it 1771 01:37:29,670 --> 01:37:26,830 helps us get things done and in the 1772 01:37:33,650 --> 01:37:29,680 world but we're trying to let go to the 1773 01:37:36,750 --> 01:37:33,660 larger mind that's quiet and shields and 1774 01:37:39,540 --> 01:37:36,760 with that comes the intuitive 1775 01:37:41,850 --> 01:37:39,550 intelligence and that's just that feels 1776 01:37:45,300 --> 01:37:41,860 like a gift I mean what sweet let's it 1777 01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:45,310 meditate enough what happens is it we 1778 01:37:53,730 --> 01:37:49,330 are quiet in mind gets larger right and 1779 01:37:58,500 --> 01:37:53,740 it's quiet and what we get is these 1780 01:38:01,680 --> 01:37:58,510 thoughts are images of things for us to 1781 01:38:03,990 --> 01:38:01,690 do that we feel inspired about that's 1782 01:38:07,110 --> 01:38:04,000 that's why you know how to help there's 1783 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:07,120 three people in the street and you get 1784 01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:10,210 an idea of talking to one of not the 1785 01:38:20,490 --> 01:38:15,310 others and so it's a it's a thought or 1786 01:38:22,380 --> 01:38:20,500 an image to do something and that's is 1787 01:38:24,540 --> 01:38:22,390 our intuitive intelligence and what 1788 01:38:28,370 --> 01:38:24,550 happens is that that intuitive 1789 01:38:31,170 --> 01:38:28,380 intelligence if we start in the morning 1790 01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:31,180 sort of surveying what you know what's 1791 01:38:36,450 --> 01:38:32,890 really up in our lives what do we need 1792 01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:36,460 solutions to how do we get our the 1793 01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:39,130 career change we want done how do we 1794 01:38:42,300 --> 01:38:40,210 yeah 1795 01:38:47,190 --> 01:38:42,310 what happens is that you know we'll get 1796 01:38:49,770 --> 01:38:47,200 a prompt intuitive prompt and that can 1797 01:38:53,130 --> 01:38:49,780 be a gut feeling you know it's you know 1798 01:38:55,940 --> 01:38:53,140 can be a vision it can be a thought or 1799 01:38:58,920 --> 01:38:55,950 it can be a feeling you know a kind of 1800 01:39:01,530 --> 01:38:58,930 urge is what it'll feel like 1801 01:39:03,750 --> 01:39:01,540 but it's to do something to go do 1802 01:39:06,060 --> 01:39:03,760 something talk to somebody go you know 1803 01:39:08,850 --> 01:39:06,070 go open up your computer and surf around 1804 01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:08,860 and see what happens it's it you'll get 1805 01:39:14,670 --> 01:39:11,170 a to do something and then that will 1806 01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:14,680 lead to a meaningful coincidence that 1807 01:39:20,580 --> 01:39:18,850 you that comes that you think oh well I 1808 01:39:25,890 --> 01:39:20,590 was just thinking about changing careers 1809 01:39:29,010 --> 01:39:25,900 and and you know I love you know now now 1810 01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:29,020 I'm on the bus or subway and person 1811 01:39:33,780 --> 01:39:30,730 behind me is talking about that exact 1812 01:39:36,750 --> 01:39:33,790 career with with you know with with 1813 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:36,760 their experiences of how they got into 1814 01:39:43,860 --> 01:39:40,330 you know it can be so specific it just 1815 01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:43,870 blows your mind and again it it's a 1816 01:39:49,490 --> 01:39:46,690 helping universe and we get help but we 1817 01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:49,500 have to quiet the mind and the emotions 1818 01:39:58,080 --> 01:39:55,930 and then we can get prompted to how to 1819 01:40:02,550 --> 01:39:58,090 get our answers now that's something 1820 01:40:05,940 --> 01:40:02,560 that very and I'm gonna say very few but 1821 01:40:08,820 --> 01:40:05,950 more and more every day people are 1822 01:40:11,250 --> 01:40:08,830 tuning into so they're start we're 1823 01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:11,260 starting to use our intuitive 1824 01:40:16,110 --> 01:40:13,810 intelligence and that puts us into yeah 1825 01:40:18,270 --> 01:40:16,120 that gives us direction and sometimes 1826 01:40:21,060 --> 01:40:18,280 when we think of it that things will 1827 01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:21,070 come to us and we'll say oh boy I'm 1828 01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:23,440 really smart you know I just thought of 1829 01:40:28,770 --> 01:40:26,560 what to do that's all right right right 1830 01:40:32,130 --> 01:40:28,780 and and it really something that just 1831 01:40:34,380 --> 01:40:32,140 came to mind right it it wasn't it was 1832 01:40:37,979 --> 01:40:34,390 in a mental process at all it wasn't 1833 01:40:40,770 --> 01:40:37,989 some image or thought and you know it 1834 01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:40,780 kind of rise so it's that intuitive 1835 01:40:46,709 --> 01:40:43,170 intelligence it feels a little bit like 1836 01:40:48,390 --> 01:40:46,719 guiding from our larger mind you know 1837 01:40:52,290 --> 01:40:48,400 that's a guidance it's coming from our 1838 01:40:54,030 --> 01:40:52,300 larger mind and that's you know acting 1839 01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:54,040 on those intuitions 1840 01:41:01,470 --> 01:40:57,250 is how you keep the flow going and that 1841 01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:01,480 flow is is the kind of miracle existence 1842 01:41:07,170 --> 01:41:03,810 that I think we're all tamale going 1843 01:41:11,970 --> 01:41:07,180 going to step into in larger and larger 1844 01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:11,980 groups of people and and that's going to 1845 01:41:18,150 --> 01:41:14,650 solve everything you make it just in 1846 01:41:21,690 --> 01:41:18,160 time you know right but you also make it 1847 01:41:24,510 --> 01:41:21,700 sound simple there are those out there I 1848 01:41:28,710 --> 01:41:24,520 get it but there are those out there 1849 01:41:31,470 --> 01:41:28,720 that don't know when to have their eyes 1850 01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:31,480 open when when it does happen how to 1851 01:41:35,700 --> 01:41:34,330 recognize it when these synchronicities 1852 01:41:39,780 --> 01:41:35,710 appear in front of them or this 1853 01:41:42,690 --> 01:41:39,790 intuition appears how do you learn to do 1854 01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:42,700 it and learn how to act on it when it 1855 01:41:50,270 --> 01:41:46,650 does happen that's the key right right 1856 01:41:53,390 --> 01:41:50,280 but you you've got a slowdown 1857 01:41:57,390 --> 01:41:53,400 where we're in this reaction mode and 1858 01:42:01,530 --> 01:41:57,400 and you know we we have these emotional 1859 01:42:04,190 --> 01:42:01,540 erections all over the place and it and 1860 01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:04,200 you know go into fear and anxiety and 1861 01:42:12,180 --> 01:42:07,090 anger and all the rest and that just 1862 01:42:14,730 --> 01:42:12,190 makes us feel tortured so it again 1863 01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:14,740 you know it's learning to sit with 1864 01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:20,080 yourself is the key and that's what you 1865 01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:22,810 know millions of people are doing more 1866 01:42:29,730 --> 01:42:27,520 and more every year salt it's so bit 1867 01:42:32,310 --> 01:42:29,740 it's so much a solution to everything 1868 01:42:35,250 --> 01:42:32,320 but you have to you have to learn to sit 1869 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:35,260 there you know and come back to try to 1870 01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:39,850 conjure up account loves in your solar 1871 01:42:48,020 --> 01:42:43,930 plexus in order to kind of get past 1872 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:48,030 those emotional out the emotional 1873 01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:52,570 moments and that chatter telling you 1874 01:42:56,550 --> 01:42:54,490 that it's stupid to meditate you better 1875 01:42:59,250 --> 01:42:56,560 get out there and get get on the ball 1876 01:43:03,840 --> 01:42:59,260 and do something with you you know all 1877 01:43:05,730 --> 01:43:03,850 this chatter is all is trying to get get 1878 01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:05,740 us knocked in that attack not to sit 1879 01:43:10,890 --> 01:43:07,360 there silently 1880 01:43:14,130 --> 01:43:10,900 it's just but you know more and more 1881 01:43:16,890 --> 01:43:14,140 people understand and will will tell you 1882 01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:16,900 this will worth it you know it maybe you 1883 01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:19,600 can't stand sit there's more than 10 1884 01:43:27,750 --> 01:43:22,930 minutes but to make it 11 minutes 1885 01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:27,760 tomorrow you know make it 12 get where 1886 01:43:35,250 --> 01:43:29,920 you could sit there 20 minutes a day at 1887 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:35,260 some point it's so funny how the I try 1888 01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:39,730 to reach out beyond this audience 1889 01:43:45,330 --> 01:43:42,490 because this audience gets it they 1890 01:43:47,030 --> 01:43:45,340 really do right I need to be speaking to 1891 01:43:50,940 --> 01:43:47,040 those that don't get it 1892 01:43:53,550 --> 01:43:50,950 and so well you haven't people tuned 1893 01:43:56,460 --> 01:43:53,560 into your show you know they think for 1894 01:43:58,710 --> 01:43:56,470 the first time that's right outgrown you 1895 01:44:00,570 --> 01:43:58,720 that's right that's right there so you 1896 01:44:06,690 --> 01:44:00,580 know they're they're not like the rest 1897 01:44:10,170 --> 01:44:06,700 of the crowd until they are I mean you 1898 01:44:12,450 --> 01:44:10,180 say that you know oh yes oh yeah any of 1899 01:44:16,440 --> 01:44:12,460 us have to do its talk out loud about it 1900 01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:16,450 a little more well earlier today let me 1901 01:44:22,140 --> 01:44:19,690 let me let me share this with everybody 1902 01:44:25,650 --> 01:44:22,150 before we get to the break let me give 1903 01:44:30,380 --> 01:44:25,660 you the best example of how the universe 1904 01:44:34,350 --> 01:44:30,390 is watching and listening earlier today 1905 01:44:38,580 --> 01:44:34,360 James and I were texting back and forth 1906 01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:38,590 and emailing and answering our own 1907 01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:45,010 questions in advance well you were 1908 01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:50,290 answering it was just it was answer the 1909 01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:52,690 question for you before you even ask me 1910 01:44:59,460 --> 01:44:55,330 and you did the same thing so that's the 1911 01:45:02,550 --> 01:44:59,470 coordination that is that you know and 1912 01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:02,560 and and I even I want to just say to 1913 01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:03,250 everybody 1914 01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:06,130 I actually texted James like oh man the 1915 01:45:16,419 --> 01:45:14,400 because it was you know because we knew 1916 01:45:19,839 --> 01:45:16,429 what we 1917 01:45:22,629 --> 01:45:19,849 this is a conversation tonight about us 1918 01:45:25,929 --> 01:45:22,639 and about consciousness and here we are 1919 01:45:29,709 --> 01:45:25,939 texting with our consciousness actually 1920 01:45:34,060 --> 01:45:29,719 in a time machine where it was happening 1921 01:45:36,759 --> 01:45:34,070 in advance in real-time and and we were 1922 01:45:37,689 --> 01:45:36,769 the example of this show tonight James 1923 01:45:40,209 --> 01:45:37,699 it was funny 1924 01:45:42,189 --> 01:45:40,219 that was hilarious man I was so what 1925 01:45:44,469 --> 01:45:42,199 happened was you know you before you 1926 01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:44,479 texted me you know that's not a clear 1927 01:45:53,310 --> 01:45:47,360 picture yeah I just stopped everything 1928 01:45:55,839 --> 01:45:53,320 in fact I dumped a call because you know 1929 01:45:58,719 --> 01:45:55,849 you know whenever I get that big head 1930 01:46:01,330 --> 01:45:58,729 you know some some person you know 1931 01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:01,340 flashes across my mind I'm in a memory 1932 01:46:06,850 --> 01:46:04,449 or you know you know just just 1933 01:46:09,390 --> 01:46:06,860 spontaneously I figured okay I'm gonna 1934 01:46:12,580 --> 01:46:09,400 run into that person or I'm going to 1935 01:46:14,379 --> 01:46:12,590 hear from them so I was just waiting for 1936 01:46:20,649 --> 01:46:14,389 you to text and there you are answering 1937 01:46:25,770 --> 01:46:20,659 that question and and for those out 1938 01:46:28,660 --> 01:46:25,780 there that may drive around all day long 1939 01:46:32,009 --> 01:46:28,670 thinking about material things and not 1940 01:46:34,839 --> 01:46:32,019 wondering about the universe or or 1941 01:46:38,459 --> 01:46:34,849 contemplating the unknown right or 1942 01:46:41,069 --> 01:46:38,469 dreaming and then a synchronicity 1943 01:46:43,779 --> 01:46:41,079 happens like you are suggesting a 1944 01:46:45,609 --> 01:46:43,789 thought pops in your head a friend that 1945 01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:45,619 you haven't talked to in 10 years and 1946 01:46:50,379 --> 01:46:48,530 the phone rings and it's that person 1947 01:46:53,319 --> 01:46:50,389 there are those out there that don't 1948 01:46:56,410 --> 01:46:53,329 make the connection at that moment right 1949 01:46:59,439 --> 01:46:56,420 they don't even wonder about the 1950 01:47:03,399 --> 01:46:59,449 synchronicity that just happened yeah 1951 01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:03,409 that's why you know if you ever you know 1952 01:47:10,270 --> 01:47:06,050 and that I've asked this question to an 1953 01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:10,280 audience in seven continents okay and 1954 01:47:19,989 --> 01:47:15,110 what I say is you know we get intuitive 1955 01:47:23,140 --> 01:47:19,999 guidance and we have to act on that as 1956 01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:23,150 soon as possible and an example is if if 1957 01:47:29,259 --> 01:47:25,209 you have a thought of an old friend in 1958 01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:29,269 months or years and they pop in your 1959 01:47:33,310 --> 01:47:30,050 mind 1960 01:47:35,980 --> 01:47:33,320 that's a that's a that's a that's a 1961 01:47:41,470 --> 01:47:35,990 guidance that's a you know an intuitive 1962 01:47:45,070 --> 01:47:41,480 moment and we have to act on this so in 1963 01:47:47,380 --> 01:47:45,080 then I ask the audience okay how many 1964 01:47:49,540 --> 01:47:47,390 people have experienced that everybody 1965 01:47:53,710 --> 01:47:49,550 and I said when you call him right away 1966 01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:53,720 what did they say you know five 1967 01:48:00,130 --> 01:47:55,760 different languages they that the 1968 01:48:05,350 --> 01:48:00,140 audience says the person says I was just 1969 01:48:07,150 --> 01:48:05,360 thinking of you okay and so what what 1970 01:48:09,900 --> 01:48:07,160 that that's the payoff the payoff of 1971 01:48:13,660 --> 01:48:09,910 thinking of that person on both sides is 1972 01:48:16,450 --> 01:48:13,670 it's time to talk and then what happen 1973 01:48:18,850 --> 01:48:16,460 if you if you consciously explore okay 1974 01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:18,860 why are we why are we talking you know 1975 01:48:24,690 --> 01:48:21,290 what's going on your life what's going 1976 01:48:28,990 --> 01:48:24,700 on in my life and then you come to the 1977 01:48:31,270 --> 01:48:29,000 yeah it's conscious conversation and you 1978 01:48:33,940 --> 01:48:31,280 you derive what it is what are the 1979 01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:33,950 messages that both people have for each 1980 01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:36,650 other and how does that extend you know 1981 01:48:41,470 --> 01:48:38,690 this their lives and the flow of their 1982 01:48:43,810 --> 01:48:41,480 lives and so that's the that's the 1983 01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:43,820 endgame you know it and that's all it 1984 01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:46,370 once you tune into that then everything 1985 01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:48,410 goes better and if you've got if you're 1986 01:48:56,980 --> 01:48:52,400 a giver you it goes faster and faster 1987 01:48:58,810 --> 01:48:56,990 and it is easier and easier I tell I 1988 01:49:01,090 --> 01:48:58,820 tell people all the time will protect it 1989 01:49:02,440 --> 01:49:01,100 because if we're opens our intuitive 1990 01:49:06,970 --> 01:49:02,450 intelligence we get premonitions 1991 01:49:10,270 --> 01:49:06,980 premonitions our cautions about danger 1992 01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:10,280 ahead you know other ups have been saved 1993 01:49:16,810 --> 01:49:14,090 countless times by I thought to go 1994 01:49:18,700 --> 01:49:16,820 another way you know and then I find out 1995 01:49:21,310 --> 01:49:18,710 about a big wreck it happened on this 1996 01:49:25,090 --> 01:49:21,320 the whole path right right that I would 1997 01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:25,100 have taken you know so it's it's it's it 1998 01:49:31,860 --> 01:49:29,210 it's the solution to this you know this 1999 01:49:35,890 --> 01:49:31,870 world that seems so chaotic there's a 2000 01:49:37,540 --> 01:49:35,900 synchronicity that can move our lives in 2001 01:49:40,570 --> 01:49:37,550 just the right direction at the right 2002 01:49:42,030 --> 01:49:40,580 time I'm gonna ask you right now before 2003 01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:42,040 we head to the break 2004 01:49:44,410 --> 01:49:43,370 [Music] 2005 01:49:48,150 --> 01:49:44,420 we're gonna have to go into overtime 2006 01:49:51,670 --> 01:49:48,160 James I'm not ready I'm not ready to 2007 01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:51,680 stop this conversation and it and it is 2008 01:49:59,050 --> 01:49:56,810 this because everything is universal et 2009 01:50:02,170 --> 01:49:59,060 arrives on this planet 2010 01:50:05,230 --> 01:50:02,180 et actually arrives and sits and starts 2011 01:50:09,010 --> 01:50:05,240 having conversations with us they are 2012 01:50:13,930 --> 01:50:09,020 going to have the same experiences with 2013 01:50:17,770 --> 01:50:13,940 consciousness as we are right there 2014 01:50:22,650 --> 01:50:17,780 there is an inevitability to all of that 2015 01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:22,660 it has to be the same everywhere right 2016 01:50:28,690 --> 01:50:25,570 that's right and there there's some 2017 01:50:33,670 --> 01:50:28,700 there's some some level of developing 2018 01:50:35,770 --> 01:50:33,680 that consciousness so you know you're 2019 01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:35,780 the head of us are they really behind 2020 01:50:45,070 --> 01:50:38,480 you nuts I mean that it's gonna be a 2021 01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:45,080 hell of a conversation and the there's 2022 01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:48,410 there's another another part to this and 2023 01:50:53,110 --> 01:50:50,810 we can certainly finish when we come 2024 01:50:55,390 --> 01:50:53,120 back after the break but when we talk 2025 01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:55,400 about entanglement and I always go back 2026 01:50:59,650 --> 01:50:56,810 to science because I'm waiting for 2027 01:51:01,810 --> 01:50:59,660 science to just prove us right and you 2028 01:51:05,010 --> 01:51:01,820 and I can be vindicated we can kind of 2029 01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:05,020 laugh about it and enjoy the moment but 2030 01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:08,210 entanglement goes across the universe 2031 01:51:13,330 --> 01:51:10,970 that's it that that's that's part of 2032 01:51:16,690 --> 01:51:13,340 Einstein and that's the way that physics 2033 01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:16,700 says it is but if that entanglement is 2034 01:51:22,750 --> 01:51:19,130 indeed part of our reality 2035 01:51:27,130 --> 01:51:22,760 then communicating consciously across 2036 01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:27,140 the vast distances of space and time is 2037 01:51:34,630 --> 01:51:31,850 also real right that communication has 2038 01:51:38,440 --> 01:51:34,640 to be not only on this planet with 2039 01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:38,450 through like we were just saying 2040 01:51:45,730 --> 01:51:41,810 synchronicities but it has to also go 2041 01:51:49,450 --> 01:51:45,740 across the universe right I think so I 2042 01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:49,460 mean IIIi think that's an absolute given 2043 01:51:55,870 --> 01:51:53,690 and it's it's it transcends time right 2044 01:51:56,860 --> 01:51:55,880 they didn't have I can't wait to go back 2045 01:52:06,820 --> 01:51:56,870 in 2046 01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:06,830 can we okay you know what let's just 2047 01:52:13,090 --> 01:52:10,730 take our break right here let's take our 2048 01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:13,100 break right here excuse me our guest 2049 01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:16,610 tonight James Redfield and the the 2050 01:52:22,690 --> 01:52:20,810 question of overtime was inevitable 2051 01:52:24,460 --> 01:52:22,700 this was the universe working with us 2052 01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:24,470 we'll be right back after this short 2053 01:52:28,540 --> 01:52:25,970 break this is fade to black I'm there's 2054 01:52:41,070 --> 01:52:28,550 Jimmy Church more James Redfield we come 2055 01:52:44,770 --> 01:52:43,300 welcome back fade to black 2056 01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:44,780 I'm your host Jimmy Church so I guess 2057 01:52:50,340 --> 01:52:47,210 tonight James Redfield heading into some 2058 01:52:57,100 --> 01:52:50,350 overtime but you saw this coming and 2059 01:52:57,910 --> 01:52:57,110 James the inspiration tour 2020 tell us 2060 01:53:01,180 --> 01:52:57,920 about that 2061 01:53:04,180 --> 01:53:01,190 and I was reading had just posted up 2062 01:53:07,300 --> 01:53:04,190 Orange County San Rafael San Diego 2063 01:53:11,370 --> 01:53:07,310 Asheville Boulder Portland Boise and the 2064 01:53:15,730 --> 01:53:11,380 next one coming up is in Sedona 2065 01:53:20,580 --> 01:53:15,740 that's right April the 11th so what 2066 01:53:23,380 --> 01:53:20,590 we're doing is these intensive workshops 2067 01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:23,390 you know I talk about all that we've 2068 01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:26,330 discussed here in terms of how to step 2069 01:53:32,110 --> 01:53:29,360 into this flow I mean it's to me we 2070 01:53:35,530 --> 01:53:32,120 figured it out it's a matter of just 2071 01:53:39,550 --> 01:53:35,540 doing it but if you especially if you 2072 01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:39,560 have something really want you that 2073 01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:41,330 you're wanting to do be wanting to 2074 01:53:50,230 --> 01:53:45,410 create and you want that to go well and 2075 01:53:52,420 --> 01:53:50,240 you want it to go with a flow to it you 2076 01:53:55,750 --> 01:53:52,430 know there's you know what we try to do 2077 01:53:58,960 --> 01:53:55,760 is get to the essence of how you how we 2078 01:54:01,510 --> 01:53:58,970 all are changing our reaction patterns 2079 01:54:04,990 --> 01:54:01,520 okay how we react to things that happen 2080 01:54:08,290 --> 01:54:05,000 to us power struggles you never have to 2081 01:54:12,910 --> 01:54:08,300 defend yourself again there's a way to 2082 01:54:16,150 --> 01:54:12,920 disarm every power struggle that you 2083 01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:16,160 know I mean some people is like power 2084 01:54:23,590 --> 01:54:18,770 struggles but if you don't and you want 2085 01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:23,600 to be out of them forever then there's a 2086 01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:26,690 way to do that we we know we know how to 2087 01:54:33,580 --> 01:54:30,650 do that and it all begins with with this 2088 01:54:35,890 --> 01:54:33,590 opening and tuning in learning to do it 2089 01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:35,900 all the time not just when you're in 2090 01:54:44,410 --> 01:54:39,290 meditation but eventually that becomes 2091 01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:44,420 an open intuitive intelligence and keeps 2092 01:54:49,540 --> 01:54:47,090 you in that slow and and what you do in 2093 01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:49,550 meditation is is that we get only the 2094 01:54:52,989 --> 01:54:51,530 beginning what you're trying to do is 2095 01:54:56,439 --> 01:54:52,999 keep that open 2096 01:55:00,009 --> 01:54:56,449 mine would open to your larger intuitive 2097 01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:00,019 intelligence going everyday so we you 2098 01:55:08,020 --> 01:55:03,650 know we we start and systematically lose 2099 01:55:11,259 --> 01:55:08,030 through exactly what the steps are for 2100 01:55:13,270 --> 01:55:11,269 that and and I believe it's something 2101 01:55:15,489 --> 01:55:13,280 that people can do I mean you could go 2102 01:55:18,489 --> 01:55:15,499 see Tony Robbins and you can get high as 2103 01:55:20,799 --> 01:55:18,499 a kite but when you get back home and 2104 01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:20,809 your power struggle and your false is 2105 01:55:27,700 --> 01:55:24,530 screaming at you you know can you you 2106 01:55:31,330 --> 01:55:27,710 know do you know the steps back to the 2107 01:55:33,069 --> 01:55:31,340 flow that that then will serve you your 2108 01:55:35,259 --> 01:55:33,079 creative side and what you really want 2109 01:55:38,319 --> 01:55:35,269 to do in the world it's the easiest way 2110 01:55:40,930 --> 01:55:38,329 from formation is to go to Celestine 2111 01:55:43,979 --> 01:55:40,940 vision calm your website click on events 2112 01:55:47,319 --> 01:55:43,989 and you'll have everything here 2113 01:55:51,069 --> 01:55:47,329 everything and that's right and you'll 2114 01:55:53,379 --> 01:55:51,079 go somewhere to purchase tickets you'll 2115 01:55:55,089 --> 01:55:53,389 be taken to the place where you can 2116 01:55:58,540 --> 01:55:55,099 actually you know make sure you have a 2117 01:56:01,890 --> 01:55:58,550 ticket to the event will be doing all 2118 01:56:06,069 --> 01:56:01,900 year will be doing these things and 2119 01:56:08,799 --> 01:56:06,079 again it's it's been a really 2120 01:56:10,569 --> 01:56:08,809 interesting experience for me too we 2121 01:56:12,910 --> 01:56:10,579 started out talking about me staying 2122 01:56:17,439 --> 01:56:12,920 behind the book writer letting it 2123 01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:17,449 circulate the globe many times but now 2124 01:56:23,439 --> 01:56:19,760 we've we've got these two generations 2125 01:56:25,810 --> 01:56:23,449 that are a little bit different and you 2126 01:56:27,700 --> 01:56:25,820 know Millennials are different and and 2127 01:56:30,879 --> 01:56:27,710 you know everybody who's older than a 2128 01:56:34,719 --> 01:56:30,889 millennial knows that you know they 2129 01:56:38,620 --> 01:56:34,729 didn't engage right away because they're 2130 01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:38,630 different from baby boomers they are 2131 01:56:45,870 --> 01:56:42,800 Xers even they they are about unifying 2132 01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:45,880 the planet so they don't want all this 2133 01:56:54,910 --> 01:56:50,570 abstract they want they want to take all 2134 01:56:57,100 --> 01:56:54,920 this abstract theory that baby boomers 2135 01:56:59,319 --> 01:56:57,110 generated about how to live life better 2136 01:57:01,209 --> 01:56:59,329 right but they want to distill it down 2137 01:57:03,189 --> 01:57:01,219 into something that they could do 2138 01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:03,199 beginning first thing in the morning and 2139 01:57:09,130 --> 01:57:06,770 that's really what I think because 2140 01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:09,140 they've Millennials and the children are 2141 01:57:16,390 --> 01:57:12,410 already to the majority population on 2142 01:57:18,220 --> 01:57:16,400 the planet and we're in a in the sense 2143 01:57:21,580 --> 01:57:18,230 of the other group mine we're talking 2144 01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:21,590 about we we're feeling that same way we 2145 01:57:28,330 --> 01:57:25,370 wanted we want to take all this this our 2146 01:57:32,590 --> 01:57:28,340 ideas about consciousness and bring it 2147 01:57:34,270 --> 01:57:32,600 down to a core set of values just like 2148 01:57:39,490 --> 01:57:34,280 Millennials want they want they want to 2149 01:57:42,670 --> 01:57:39,500 establish a new set of values out of all 2150 01:57:44,590 --> 01:57:42,680 this abstraction and that's exactly I 2151 01:57:47,709 --> 01:57:44,600 believe what's happening and that that's 2152 01:57:50,050 --> 01:57:47,719 why there's so much consciousness really 2153 01:57:52,300 --> 01:57:50,060 growing with this generation yeah I 2154 01:57:55,060 --> 01:57:52,310 think in one generation with the 2155 01:58:00,640 --> 01:57:55,070 Millennials I genuinely think their DNA 2156 01:58:04,870 --> 01:58:03,340 it is okay I think they I think it's 2157 01:58:07,630 --> 01:58:04,880 every year but it's never again every 2158 01:58:10,870 --> 01:58:07,640 generation thinks that okay so I believe 2159 01:58:13,180 --> 01:58:10,880 that every generation alternates in a 2160 01:58:17,290 --> 01:58:13,190 certain way like for instance baby 2161 01:58:18,790 --> 01:58:17,300 boomers who are you know they're 2162 01:58:20,650 --> 01:58:18,800 starting to retire now they're starting 2163 01:58:22,300 --> 01:58:20,660 you know they're asking the larger 2164 01:58:24,150 --> 01:58:22,310 questions again you know what I would 2165 01:58:26,590 --> 01:58:24,160 really want to do when I grow up right 2166 01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:26,600 and what's not legacy gonna be 2167 01:58:34,930 --> 01:58:31,810 but but baby boomers were searchers of 2168 01:58:36,820 --> 01:58:34,940 abstract thinking you know the we had 2169 01:58:38,530 --> 01:58:36,830 theories we're trying to pursue and 2170 01:58:41,370 --> 01:58:38,540 we're trying to live them and everything 2171 01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:41,380 but it's the fun was in the theory of 2172 01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:44,090 and hoping it'll last I mean hopefully 2173 01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:45,890 we can get to the bottom stuff in the 2174 01:58:55,300 --> 01:58:50,090 pendant and baby boomers excuse me 2175 01:58:58,240 --> 01:58:55,310 Millennials then come next and they are 2176 01:59:01,300 --> 01:58:58,250 less abstract thinking they want to they 2177 01:59:03,729 --> 01:59:01,310 don't want to do extractions what they 2178 01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:03,739 want to do is unify all this abstract 2179 01:59:11,290 --> 01:59:07,130 thought into a do value for the culture 2180 01:59:15,070 --> 01:59:11,300 at large and and then the millennial 2181 01:59:16,870 --> 01:59:15,080 children they're more out there mentally 2182 01:59:19,959 --> 01:59:16,880 I mean they're out there searching for 2183 01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:19,969 answers more actively 2184 01:59:26,290 --> 01:59:23,210 and you'll sink in a series theoretical 2185 01:59:29,140 --> 01:59:26,300 points of view but so you can see I 2186 01:59:31,779 --> 01:59:29,150 believe that the ought they are each 2187 01:59:34,629 --> 01:59:31,789 generation alternates so that you have a 2188 01:59:37,239 --> 01:59:34,639 lot of discovery and then trying to 2189 01:59:40,180 --> 01:59:37,249 bring it back home to create new values 2190 01:59:43,330 --> 01:59:40,190 for the planet based on the best of 2191 01:59:46,350 --> 01:59:43,340 those when the next generation comes 2192 01:59:50,890 --> 01:59:46,360 around so I think it's a normal process 2193 01:59:53,919 --> 01:59:50,900 too but the the children of the 2194 01:59:57,069 --> 01:59:53,929 Millennials right my grandchildren are 2195 02:00:02,370 --> 01:59:57,079 going to be born with cellphones it's 2196 02:00:06,700 --> 02:00:02,380 just like they have this ability to 2197 02:00:11,049 --> 02:00:06,710 accept the the information that is in 2198 02:00:12,879 --> 02:00:11,059 front of them disposable information 2199 02:00:14,979 --> 02:00:12,889 instantaneous you and I didn't have that 2200 02:00:15,810 --> 02:00:14,989 growing up right we had to go to the 2201 02:00:22,390 --> 02:00:15,820 library 2202 02:00:23,979 --> 02:00:22,400 different it's a brave new world it's a 2203 02:00:24,489 --> 02:00:23,989 brave new world I couldn't agree with 2204 02:00:26,830 --> 02:00:24,499 you more 2205 02:00:29,979 --> 02:00:26,840 why did they ask you this you know you 2206 02:00:34,689 --> 02:00:29,989 mentioned something to me over the 2207 02:00:36,250 --> 02:00:34,699 weekend and there are two different 2208 02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:36,260 types of people in this world there are 2209 02:00:40,810 --> 02:00:40,130 those that do and those that don't and I 2210 02:00:42,759 --> 02:00:40,820 accept that 2211 02:00:45,489 --> 02:00:42,769 right there's not really a whole lot of 2212 02:00:47,140 --> 02:00:45,499 gray area in the middle but you 2213 02:00:50,020 --> 02:00:47,150 mentioned to me that you had a piece of 2214 02:00:54,069 --> 02:00:50,030 property that you wanted to do something 2215 02:00:58,020 --> 02:00:54,079 with for this planet can we expand on 2216 02:01:01,899 --> 02:00:58,030 that a little bit on what your ideas are 2217 02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:01,909 well you know I'm we're all ready we 2218 02:01:08,859 --> 02:01:06,050 already have a a registered wildlife 2219 02:01:12,459 --> 02:01:08,869 preserves and and some property I have 2220 02:01:18,580 --> 02:01:12,469 in Alabama which is an interesting it's 2221 02:01:22,290 --> 02:01:18,590 interesting to to experience Alabama 2222 02:01:25,779 --> 02:01:22,300 coming back to it right but it's a it's 2223 02:01:27,939 --> 02:01:25,789 about 600 acres and and we just made it 2224 02:01:29,589 --> 02:01:27,949 into a nature preserve you know there's 2225 02:01:33,429 --> 02:01:29,599 a lot of hunting still going on around 2226 02:01:36,219 --> 02:01:33,439 that we but not on this property right 2227 02:01:39,459 --> 02:01:36,229 and so we're just and we have you know 2228 02:01:42,339 --> 02:01:39,469 there are lots of wildlife and I'm you 2229 02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:42,349 know our nearest neighbor on this 2230 02:01:51,699 --> 02:01:47,110 property is two miles away right and 2231 02:01:59,859 --> 02:01:51,709 forests deep forests and the adjacent to 2232 02:02:05,979 --> 02:01:59,869 us is another at least 49 square miles 2233 02:02:07,870 --> 02:02:05,989 really no forest area and so it's it's 2234 02:02:09,669 --> 02:02:07,880 there's a lot of open land here don't 2235 02:02:13,179 --> 02:02:09,679 tell anybody right right 2236 02:02:13,989 --> 02:02:13,189 we want to keep it open but but there's 2237 02:02:16,390 --> 02:02:13,999 open land 2238 02:02:21,279 --> 02:02:16,400 you know it's interesting in Alabama 2239 02:02:25,629 --> 02:02:21,289 because it's so rural that you know 2240 02:02:27,909 --> 02:02:25,639 people with you know just small incomes 2241 02:02:30,879 --> 02:02:27,919 really you know people make make you 2242 02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:30,889 know you know thirty thousand dollars a 2243 02:02:36,069 --> 02:02:33,610 year can't afford to have five acres 2244 02:02:41,919 --> 02:02:36,079 right right that's not true in 2245 02:02:44,140 --> 02:02:41,929 California it is it is here and it's 2246 02:02:46,509 --> 02:02:44,150 wooded forested and whole life 2247 02:02:52,239 --> 02:02:46,519 everywhere you know we have we have 2248 02:02:57,699 --> 02:02:52,249 small bears we have occasional cougar we 2249 02:03:02,649 --> 02:02:57,709 have yep everything else Fox and cow DS 2250 02:03:06,549 --> 02:03:02,659 and all kinds of small animals you know 2251 02:03:09,580 --> 02:03:06,559 because we have a lake here has the 2252 02:03:11,879 --> 02:03:09,590 otters and yeah the delightful creatures 2253 02:03:15,729 --> 02:03:11,889 all right delightful creatures and and 2254 02:03:18,129 --> 02:03:15,739 you know they're conscious and it you 2255 02:03:22,419 --> 02:03:18,139 know what's what's once we understand 2256 02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:22,429 how conscious animals are we will treat 2257 02:03:29,759 --> 02:03:25,010 them a lot better because they're very 2258 02:03:32,859 --> 02:03:29,769 conscious very relational you know they 2259 02:03:35,709 --> 02:03:32,869 they they're but they're becoming 2260 02:03:39,850 --> 02:03:35,719 conscious with us which is an 2261 02:03:43,779 --> 02:03:39,860 interesting point of all this you know 2262 02:03:46,570 --> 02:03:43,789 to see that happen but anyway that's you 2263 02:03:50,470 --> 02:03:46,580 know it's it's established 2264 02:03:52,990 --> 02:03:50,480 and and you know that's our part of to 2265 02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:53,000 give back a little bit I think it's so 2266 02:04:00,670 --> 02:03:53,570 cool 2267 02:04:06,810 --> 02:04:00,680 and I I used to be so unconscious man I 2268 02:04:08,260 --> 02:04:06,820 used to be so good in that you don't 2269 02:04:10,890 --> 02:04:08,270 understand 2270 02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:10,900 sometimes what butterflies are bees or 2271 02:04:17,470 --> 02:04:14,930 insects or cats and dogs or think you 2272 02:04:21,330 --> 02:04:17,480 don't understand the connection back to 2273 02:04:25,900 --> 02:04:21,340 earth and what every little thing means 2274 02:04:28,450 --> 02:04:25,910 right trees and flowers and food and and 2275 02:04:31,090 --> 02:04:28,460 how that is connected back to insects 2276 02:04:35,010 --> 02:04:31,100 and life and thing this planet 2277 02:04:40,210 --> 02:04:35,020 established itself without us 2278 02:04:43,750 --> 02:04:40,220 it runs on its own there's a balance 2279 02:04:46,150 --> 02:04:43,760 here we can't go and screw with that we 2280 02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:46,160 can't the balance would tip so quick 2281 02:04:54,550 --> 02:04:50,930 wouldn't it it we could we could be gone 2282 02:04:58,600 --> 02:04:54,560 as easy as we appeared if we don't take 2283 02:05:02,110 --> 02:04:58,610 care of this planet without that without 2284 02:05:06,820 --> 02:05:02,120 it out and and you know we were kind of 2285 02:05:08,980 --> 02:05:06,830 lost in some scare tactics that's going 2286 02:05:11,170 --> 02:05:08,990 on you know and we're not paying 2287 02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:11,180 attention to what's really fouling the 2288 02:05:22,140 --> 02:05:16,610 planet and and that's chemicals you know 2289 02:05:26,980 --> 02:05:22,150 the whole emphasis on climate change is 2290 02:05:30,220 --> 02:05:26,990 is the emphasizing the actual polluters 2291 02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:30,230 you know that are that are polluting 2292 02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:34,490 streams and polluting you know the 2293 02:05:40,450 --> 02:05:37,250 oceans and and you know that's that's 2294 02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:40,460 that's so that's a place eating body can 2295 02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:43,370 find a mission it you know just just 2296 02:05:48,940 --> 02:05:45,650 exposing the corruption you know that's 2297 02:05:51,550 --> 02:05:48,950 that's the next and it's being exposed 2298 02:05:55,230 --> 02:05:51,560 quite a bit but just exposing it more 2299 02:05:56,860 --> 02:05:55,240 and and doing our part to expose it and 2300 02:05:58,360 --> 02:05:56,870 discover yep 2301 02:05:59,780 --> 02:05:58,370 you know go out there and be a 2302 02:06:03,380 --> 02:05:59,790 whistleblower 2303 02:06:05,120 --> 02:06:03,390 you know discover these acts of 2304 02:06:08,690 --> 02:06:05,130 pollution that are happening out there 2305 02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:08,700 and you know it's it's it's what it's 2306 02:06:13,340 --> 02:06:11,010 it's a big calling you know because 2307 02:06:14,450 --> 02:06:13,350 exposing corruption is the way to get 2308 02:06:16,640 --> 02:06:14,460 past the crutch 2309 02:06:19,610 --> 02:06:16,650 the first we have to know what it really 2310 02:06:21,380 --> 02:06:19,620 is if he's doing it and and how they're 2311 02:06:25,820 --> 02:06:21,390 getting away with it and all those 2312 02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:25,830 things and that that takes people you 2313 02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:28,650 know banding together and doing the 2314 02:06:35,030 --> 02:06:32,010 research and there's one other thing 2315 02:06:37,580 --> 02:06:35,040 that I've got to get to tonight and I'm 2316 02:06:40,550 --> 02:06:37,590 gonna discuss it in just a second but 2317 02:06:42,110 --> 02:06:40,560 you and I are from a generation and I 2318 02:06:44,540 --> 02:06:42,120 don't want to make us sound like old 2319 02:06:47,390 --> 02:06:44,550 dudes but but we're getting there 2320 02:06:51,410 --> 02:06:47,400 and and it's this when when I was 2321 02:06:54,910 --> 02:06:51,420 running around in the 60s through fields 2322 02:06:59,960 --> 02:06:54,920 and and summer vacations and and things 2323 02:07:02,690 --> 02:06:59,970 there were bees everywhere right there 2324 02:07:06,050 --> 02:07:02,700 were butterflies everywhere there were 2325 02:07:09,950 --> 02:07:06,060 birds everywhere there was noise outside 2326 02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:09,960 in nature today I don't see any of that 2327 02:07:18,290 --> 02:07:14,970 I it's it's like missing James and is 2328 02:07:22,430 --> 02:07:18,300 this my imagination or is this a 2329 02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:22,440 different place than where we're at 50 2330 02:07:27,320 --> 02:07:24,890 years ago 2331 02:07:31,940 --> 02:07:27,330 well I think it's where you where you 2332 02:07:33,770 --> 02:07:31,950 are you know I mean how populous and how 2333 02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:33,780 crowded is where you are you know 2334 02:07:39,110 --> 02:07:36,690 because people just edged out nature you 2335 02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:39,120 know right when there's too many people 2336 02:07:46,580 --> 02:07:41,370 in any one city or too many people in 2337 02:07:49,430 --> 02:07:46,590 one in one state so you often have to 2338 02:07:53,630 --> 02:07:49,440 find it again but I grew up the same way 2339 02:07:57,470 --> 02:07:53,640 and it's it's it's it's a population 2340 02:08:01,160 --> 02:07:57,480 issue but it's also just a location 2341 02:08:03,470 --> 02:08:01,170 issue you know it's its resources I mean 2342 02:08:07,550 --> 02:08:03,480 if we had you know there's free energy 2343 02:08:10,190 --> 02:08:07,560 available we all you know assume that 2344 02:08:12,140 --> 02:08:10,200 right but you know it could be 2345 02:08:13,399 --> 02:08:12,150 implemented so you know we could all 2346 02:08:16,430 --> 02:08:13,409 have our 2347 02:08:18,820 --> 02:08:16,440 place out in nature you know and it was 2348 02:08:22,250 --> 02:08:18,830 free energy and communications and and 2349 02:08:26,410 --> 02:08:22,260 all the rest with that it comes with 2350 02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:26,420 that but it's you know it's it's just 2351 02:08:33,350 --> 02:08:28,770 cramming together because of the 2352 02:08:37,879 --> 02:08:33,360 economics of the situation basically and 2353 02:08:40,970 --> 02:08:37,889 and resources you know in but that that 2354 02:08:45,620 --> 02:08:40,980 would change when when we get our Star 2355 02:08:50,620 --> 02:08:45,630 Trek reality right yeah the the question 2356 02:08:56,899 --> 02:08:50,630 that I wanted to get to was one of diet 2357 02:09:00,410 --> 02:08:56,909 diet yes yes diet and you know what I'm 2358 02:09:06,410 --> 02:09:00,420 just gonna leave it right there and that 2359 02:09:12,379 --> 02:09:06,420 over to you that has to help us one way 2360 02:09:14,450 --> 02:09:12,389 or another to have clear mind right well 2361 02:09:16,850 --> 02:09:14,460 you know the the dark side wants to 2362 02:09:20,479 --> 02:09:16,860 depopulate and they're doing lots of 2363 02:09:24,530 --> 02:09:20,489 stuff to depart depopulate and also to 2364 02:09:28,459 --> 02:09:24,540 in my view does down you know where we 2365 02:09:31,399 --> 02:09:28,469 can't think but yes some of its greed 2366 02:09:33,320 --> 02:09:31,409 and in corruption and sometimes it's 2367 02:09:36,820 --> 02:09:33,330 done intentionally you know there's 2368 02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:36,830 there raining chemtrails down on us and 2369 02:09:43,879 --> 02:09:40,170 if anybody doubts that all they have to 2370 02:09:47,330 --> 02:09:43,889 do is look up in the sky every now man 2371 02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:47,340 and you know there's there's there's a 2372 02:09:58,510 --> 02:09:51,690 yep vaccines you know this is this this 2373 02:10:03,740 --> 02:09:58,520 all this intention to kind of double 2374 02:10:06,590 --> 02:10:03,750 dumbest down and her helps so if what 2375 02:10:10,430 --> 02:10:06,600 you wake up to all that you realize that 2376 02:10:12,470 --> 02:10:10,440 you know that the controllers want they 2377 02:10:14,990 --> 02:10:12,480 want to decrease the population 2378 02:10:17,750 --> 02:10:15,000 I mean it's everywhere yeah we we know 2379 02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:17,760 that's and you know they're doing it the 2380 02:10:25,340 --> 02:10:20,250 way a someone who doesn't believe in 2381 02:10:27,170 --> 02:10:25,350 anything spiritual would do it so that's 2382 02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:27,180 another correction that we have to 2383 02:10:35,630 --> 02:10:29,520 but there's things we could do to 2384 02:10:38,180 --> 02:10:35,640 protect ourselves and I'm I'm in this 2385 02:10:41,300 --> 02:10:38,190 because we and we essentially have to 2386 02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:41,310 separate from the corporate medical 2387 02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:46,410 system the drugs are not created to cure 2388 02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:49,010 anything you know drugs are created to 2389 02:10:54,320 --> 02:10:52,050 kill on the drugs so it's a maintenance 2390 02:10:58,670 --> 02:10:54,330 issue that they do want to create in 2391 02:11:02,420 --> 02:10:58,680 every person so the way that I handle 2392 02:11:06,010 --> 02:11:02,430 that is that I've retreated a found you 2393 02:11:10,190 --> 02:11:06,020 know an integrative physician right and 2394 02:11:12,530 --> 02:11:10,200 I recommend that everybody finds an 2395 02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:12,540 integrative physician now that that's a 2396 02:11:20,210 --> 02:11:17,610 that's a legal physician who is moral 2397 02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:20,220 enough to back away from pharmaceuticals 2398 02:11:27,730 --> 02:11:24,290 and who decides that there are a lot of 2399 02:11:32,120 --> 02:11:27,740 measures you can take to stay healthy 2400 02:11:36,260 --> 02:11:32,130 and the basic ones is to make sure 2401 02:11:39,050 --> 02:11:36,270 you're getting the maitreya tini there's 2402 02:11:41,270 --> 02:11:39,060 all the minerals that used to be in the 2403 02:11:44,590 --> 02:11:41,280 soil are not in there anymore even in 2404 02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:44,600 even without much of the organic foods 2405 02:11:49,670 --> 02:11:47,130 they're just not there in the quantities 2406 02:11:54,080 --> 02:11:49,680 that we have to have so everybody is 2407 02:11:58,850 --> 02:11:54,090 short of magnesium for instance I mean I 2408 02:12:00,290 --> 02:11:58,860 mean it's it's it's it's a epidemic d3 2409 02:12:03,230 --> 02:12:00,300 the sunshine vitamin you know 2410 02:12:07,670 --> 02:12:03,240 everybody's been yeah scared and visibly 2411 02:12:11,570 --> 02:12:07,680 and into putting sunscreen on every time 2412 02:12:14,240 --> 02:12:11,580 they go outside because in you know when 2413 02:12:16,640 --> 02:12:14,250 it with the idea that it's the Sun 2414 02:12:19,460 --> 02:12:16,650 causing skin cancer well so I'm good 2415 02:12:20,510 --> 02:12:19,470 does it call skin cancer it can get I 2416 02:12:24,890 --> 02:12:20,520 thought you don't want to get too much 2417 02:12:29,180 --> 02:12:24,900 of it because it ages your face but what 2418 02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:29,190 causes skin cancer is sugar and so yeah 2419 02:12:35,350 --> 02:12:31,530 what she yeah you go to an integrative 2420 02:12:38,210 --> 02:12:35,360 physician you'll get the basics now of 2421 02:12:40,550 --> 02:12:38,220 how we're all short of nutrients and 2422 02:12:41,089 --> 02:12:40,560 we're aging about twice as fast as which 2423 02:12:46,279 --> 02:12:41,099 is 2424 02:12:50,139 --> 02:12:46,289 should be or maybe even more I will 2425 02:12:55,069 --> 02:12:50,149 mention the Life Extension Foundation 2426 02:12:59,139 --> 02:12:55,079 and I have no financial you deal with 2427 02:13:03,739 --> 02:12:59,149 them but I support them because they're 2428 02:13:08,299 --> 02:13:03,749 scientists and physicians who who are 2429 02:13:11,330 --> 02:13:08,309 researching nutriceuticals in other 2430 02:13:14,719 --> 02:13:11,340 words plant extracts that have a 2431 02:13:18,580 --> 02:13:14,729 medicinal effect that help balance the 2432 02:13:20,479 --> 02:13:18,590 body back out so and they have 2433 02:13:24,199 --> 02:13:20,489 supplements I give you an example my 2434 02:13:26,449 --> 02:13:24,209 father had high blood pressure right so 2435 02:13:28,790 --> 02:13:26,459 a few years ago you know now let's go 2436 02:13:32,509 --> 02:13:28,800 into my integral physician every year 2437 02:13:34,429 --> 02:13:32,519 and got you know and win and he says you 2438 02:13:37,429 --> 02:13:34,439 know you get your blood pressure is 2439 02:13:41,839 --> 02:13:37,439 creeping up this is not healthy what 2440 02:13:45,139 --> 02:13:41,849 what are you doing and I said nothing 2441 02:13:47,569 --> 02:13:45,149 God knows I was eating trying to eat 2442 02:13:56,540 --> 02:13:47,579 well you know but it was happening and 2443 02:13:57,709 --> 02:13:56,550 so yeah I got on the website of life you 2444 02:14:00,310 --> 02:13:57,719 seen to foundation and see what 2445 02:14:03,889 --> 02:14:00,320 nutraceuticals 2446 02:14:05,479 --> 02:14:03,899 their research they had about that about 2447 02:14:10,429 --> 02:14:05,489 how blood pressure well it turns out 2448 02:14:15,109 --> 02:14:10,439 that pomegranate extract and l-arginine 2449 02:14:17,679 --> 02:14:15,119 is the cure right now if you if you if 2450 02:14:22,099 --> 02:14:17,689 you got to hide the diet high and 2451 02:14:24,020 --> 02:14:22,109 starches and lots of sugar it's it's 2452 02:14:27,849 --> 02:14:24,030 hard for it to work but if you're 2453 02:14:30,709 --> 02:14:27,859 willing to back off on those two 2454 02:14:32,779 --> 02:14:30,719 essentially poisonous substances that we 2455 02:14:39,139 --> 02:14:32,789 put in ourselves my two favorite things 2456 02:14:42,099 --> 02:14:39,149 right you get out of the yeah I have the 2457 02:14:43,969 --> 02:14:42,109 blood pressure now just foremost to 2458 02:14:48,259 --> 02:14:43,979 nutriceuticals I have the blood pressure 2459 02:14:53,810 --> 02:14:48,269 of a thirty year old and it's because 2460 02:14:55,109 --> 02:14:53,820 they work and you know and I got cleaned 2461 02:14:58,139 --> 02:14:55,119 up I died a little bit more 2462 02:15:01,770 --> 02:14:58,149 or but they work to do that no 2463 02:15:04,949 --> 02:15:01,780 medication was necessary okay so that's 2464 02:15:07,139 --> 02:15:04,959 you know that's something that every 2465 02:15:08,879 --> 02:15:07,149 doctor should know about right but of 2466 02:15:10,469 --> 02:15:08,889 course they don't because all they know 2467 02:15:12,750 --> 02:15:10,479 is what the pharmaceutical companies 2468 02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:12,760 tell them mm-hmm so that's why you have 2469 02:15:20,129 --> 02:15:18,010 to find a integral physician and and 2470 02:15:22,589 --> 02:15:20,139 stay in touch with some organization 2471 02:15:26,669 --> 02:15:22,599 like the Life Extension Foundation the 2472 02:15:30,270 --> 02:15:26,679 fact that matter is you know it they're 2473 02:15:32,609 --> 02:15:30,280 just for nutriceuticals you can and and 2474 02:15:37,310 --> 02:15:32,619 healthy living 2475 02:15:40,649 --> 02:15:37,320 you can age at least 20 years slower 2476 02:15:44,069 --> 02:15:40,659 than the current generation and it's 2477 02:15:49,949 --> 02:15:44,079 retroactive you can go back in age they 2478 02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:49,959 have a little you know every in our 2479 02:15:55,549 --> 02:15:51,760 genetics we have something called a 2480 02:15:59,879 --> 02:15:55,559 telomere which is nothing but a a 2481 02:16:02,009 --> 02:15:59,889 measure of how fast we're aging and it 2482 02:16:09,139 --> 02:16:02,019 gets you know the worse we treat 2483 02:16:11,669 --> 02:16:09,149 ourselves the the the shorter they get 2484 02:16:14,369 --> 02:16:11,679 until we got you know when they go down 2485 02:16:17,879 --> 02:16:14,379 to nothing you don't that's right you 2486 02:16:21,089 --> 02:16:17,889 get something or not you just die and so 2487 02:16:27,629 --> 02:16:21,099 they now actually have a measure of how 2488 02:16:30,419 --> 02:16:27,639 fast we're aging right so again and you 2489 02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:30,429 know you can you could clamp your diet 2490 02:16:36,290 --> 02:16:33,010 and what I mean by that you know that's 2491 02:16:42,629 --> 02:16:36,300 a just talk a minute about that because 2492 02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:42,639 diet is is somewhat personal as to what 2493 02:16:52,589 --> 02:16:46,889 works best for us and there's oh another 2494 02:16:55,530 --> 02:16:52,599 internet doctor dr. joe mercola and if 2495 02:16:59,990 --> 02:16:55,540 you google him you'll see you know how 2496 02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:00,000 awfully is all coming from the the 2497 02:17:05,219 --> 02:17:03,010 pharmaceutical industry so you know that 2498 02:17:06,899 --> 02:17:05,229 he's pretty good and what he recommends 2499 02:17:08,670 --> 02:17:06,909 is figure out what kind of metabolic 2500 02:17:11,520 --> 02:17:08,680 type you are 2501 02:17:13,831 --> 02:17:11,530 some some people have to have animal 2502 02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:13,841 protein to be healthy that's right so 2503 02:17:18,300 --> 02:17:16,000 genetics yeah and you just have to 2504 02:17:24,050 --> 02:17:18,310 figure out what you know what you are 2505 02:17:27,060 --> 02:17:24,060 now I'm I can I can you know I'm out I'm 2506 02:17:32,730 --> 02:17:27,070 what he defines this year is a plant 2507 02:17:35,550 --> 02:17:32,740 type you know a vegetarian type or and 2508 02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:35,560 of some some degree of animal protein 2509 02:17:42,270 --> 02:17:40,690 type or mixed and when yeah you wouldn't 2510 02:17:44,310 --> 02:17:42,280 take his little test it's just a real 2511 02:17:46,910 --> 02:17:44,320 questionnaire about we can you feel good 2512 02:17:51,121 --> 02:17:46,920 and when you don't and you can determine 2513 02:17:53,970 --> 02:17:51,131 what the ratios ought to be but the idea 2514 02:17:57,270 --> 02:17:53,980 that we can all be vegetarians right now 2515 02:17:58,340 --> 02:17:57,280 and in some way to try to save the 2516 02:18:01,581 --> 02:17:58,350 planet 2517 02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:01,591 it's just not workable because of this 2518 02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:04,450 third of the people just they don't do 2519 02:18:10,470 --> 02:18:07,570 well without some animal protein so I I 2520 02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:10,480 just I recommend just didn't like the 2521 02:18:17,700 --> 02:18:13,210 native people so [\h__\h] the world do they 2522 02:18:20,550 --> 02:18:17,710 paid some meat and fish you just have to 2523 02:18:25,400 --> 02:18:20,560 do it by honoring these creatures and 2524 02:18:29,910 --> 02:18:25,410 and you know have enough native people 2525 02:18:32,190 --> 02:18:29,920 kind of ceremony around around consuming 2526 02:18:35,430 --> 02:18:32,200 animals now will we evolved out of that 2527 02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:35,440 I think we probably will and we might 2528 02:18:42,270 --> 02:18:37,810 could do that pretty quickly but as 2529 02:18:45,590 --> 02:18:42,280 consciousness goes up right and but but 2530 02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:45,600 the the most people have at least 10 2531 02:18:50,250 --> 02:18:48,010 nutrients that are essential for good 2532 02:18:52,230 --> 02:18:50,260 health that they're shortened and only 2533 02:18:56,371 --> 02:18:52,240 way to know is to go to an integrative 2534 02:18:59,940 --> 02:18:56,381 physician and not and realize that the 2535 02:19:01,920 --> 02:18:59,950 values the the ordinary doctors get 2536 02:19:04,670 --> 02:19:01,930 blood tests but they say oh you're okay 2537 02:19:08,360 --> 02:19:04,680 with all this because the values they 2538 02:19:11,490 --> 02:19:08,370 recommend in the pharmaceutical research 2539 02:19:16,350 --> 02:19:11,500 recommends are way low so we need a lot 2540 02:19:19,850 --> 02:19:16,360 more d3 sunshine vitamin then then your 2541 02:19:22,240 --> 02:19:19,860 ordinary doctor will say magnesium 2542 02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:22,250 potassium 2543 02:19:32,379 --> 02:19:27,050 you know we need to keep our hormones we 2544 02:19:35,440 --> 02:19:32,389 we need to test our DHEA coenzyme q10 2545 02:19:38,560 --> 02:19:35,450 levels all that kind of those are those 2546 02:19:41,530 --> 02:19:38,570 are the things that agent that can 2547 02:19:44,379 --> 02:19:41,540 buffer the fast aging that's going on 2548 02:19:46,509 --> 02:19:44,389 our planet's you know it's it's going to 2549 02:19:48,280 --> 02:19:46,519 be it's going to be the dark ages of 2550 02:19:50,620 --> 02:19:48,290 Medicine yeah this will be known as the 2551 02:19:53,170 --> 02:19:50,630 darkest age of medicine this period that 2552 02:19:55,420 --> 02:19:53,180 we're living through right now to future 2553 02:19:57,190 --> 02:19:55,430 cultures in my view the other blessed 2554 02:20:01,660 --> 02:19:57,200 thing I would recommend about that is 2555 02:20:04,570 --> 02:20:01,670 get out of breath every other day okay 2556 02:20:06,310 --> 02:20:04,580 the exercise that we need is not running 2557 02:20:08,410 --> 02:20:06,320 you know that's the worst thing we can 2558 02:20:11,230 --> 02:20:08,420 possibly do you know long-term more 2559 02:20:12,610 --> 02:20:11,240 money is worst thing the research shows 2560 02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:12,620 that's the worst thing possibly do for 2561 02:20:18,880 --> 02:20:15,650 your health and but we but what we do 2562 02:20:24,180 --> 02:20:18,890 need is interval training like get do 2563 02:20:28,990 --> 02:20:24,190 something so you lift weights or row or 2564 02:20:31,780 --> 02:20:29,000 sprint to get out of breath at least 30 2565 02:20:34,990 --> 02:20:31,790 seconds you know up to 30 seconds and 2566 02:20:37,450 --> 02:20:35,000 then stop but try to be so you so much 2567 02:20:40,300 --> 02:20:37,460 you're out of breath in 30 seconds and 2568 02:20:42,820 --> 02:20:40,310 you do that it and then recuperate a 2569 02:20:45,010 --> 02:20:42,830 minute and then do it one another time 2570 02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:45,020 in up to eight times every other day 2571 02:20:50,500 --> 02:20:47,570 because that expands your lung capacity 2572 02:20:52,600 --> 02:20:50,510 and if we're not getting out of breath 2573 02:20:54,550 --> 02:20:52,610 and a lot of people are not out there 2574 02:20:57,190 --> 02:20:54,560 you're not expanding you're not keeping 2575 02:21:00,790 --> 02:20:57,200 your lung capacity up so that what 2576 02:21:04,960 --> 02:21:00,800 happens is that the your lungs age way 2577 02:21:06,610 --> 02:21:04,970 ahead of when they should and and again 2578 02:21:08,740 --> 02:21:06,620 that's all you can read anybody can read 2579 02:21:11,980 --> 02:21:08,750 about all this from like extensive 2580 02:21:15,790 --> 02:21:11,990 foundation platform and the word is out 2581 02:21:19,780 --> 02:21:15,800 you know we know I think pretty much how 2582 02:21:22,380 --> 02:21:19,790 we need to live in order to eat and 2583 02:21:25,390 --> 02:21:22,390 consume in order to reduce this rate of 2584 02:21:28,150 --> 02:21:25,400 aging that's going on thank you so much 2585 02:21:31,180 --> 02:21:28,160 for an amazing conversation tonight and 2586 02:21:34,030 --> 02:21:31,190 of course we did run out of time and we 2587 02:21:35,599 --> 02:21:34,040 did it we actually did it James thank 2588 02:21:37,819 --> 02:21:35,609 you so much and behalf 2589 02:21:41,090 --> 02:21:37,829 for this community thank you for 2590 02:21:45,380 --> 02:21:41,100 everything over the years and and 2591 02:21:48,469 --> 02:21:45,390 continuing to on this effort to help us 2592 02:21:52,179 --> 02:21:48,479 all and with that I'm gonna have to run 2593 02:21:55,399 --> 02:21:52,189 straight to credits here James we are 2594 02:21:57,170 --> 02:21:55,409 thanks for what you do out there keep it 2595 02:21:59,979 --> 02:21:57,180 up I look forward to our next 2596 02:22:04,159 --> 02:21:59,989 conversation James thank you so much 2597 02:22:07,729 --> 02:22:04,169 James Redfield now it is celestine 2598 02:22:10,010 --> 02:22:07,739 vision dot-com is James's website the 2599 02:22:13,489 --> 02:22:10,020 links are over at Jimmy Church radio.com 2600 02:22:16,460 --> 02:22:13,499 and do click on the events section there 2601 02:22:18,979 --> 02:22:16,470 he will be speaking in Sedona Arizona on 2602 02:22:20,689 --> 02:22:18,989 April 11th all of his books are there 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